Would you take your $ spent and a stock motor, over your FI setup? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Timmy_Jones · 05-18-2015, 04:03 PM

If you could go back to stock and have the $ spent back, would you?

Thinking of doing a ‘mild’ turbo setup, around 7-10 PSI. Big intercooler, 93 octane, tuned via laptop and ECUtek. Local builder has built a few of these. My top priority is safety/reliability. Looking back, if you have a similar FI setup, would you do it again? I know this is a very subjective question, but that was the aim. Looking to gauge a general opinion.

protpibe · 05-18-2015, 04:06 PM

No, i wouldn't.

I've driven NA ones since boosting mine last year and they're incredibly boring. Personal opinion.

Dream20b · 05-18-2015, 04:21 PM

Nope, but I'd go big SC if I knew better when I started. 280 is not enough

autograph · 05-18-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream20b

Nope, but I'd go big SC if I knew better when I started. 280 is not enough

280 as in 280whp is not enough?

Model Citizen · 05-18-2015, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by autograph

280 as in 280whp is not enough?

He doesnt like turning the wheel.

Dream20b · 05-18-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by autograph

280 as in 280whp is not enough?

I owe vin diesel a 10 second car.

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Originally Posted by Model Citizen

He doesnt like turning the wheel.

Agreed.

mhiscott · 05-18-2015, 05:49 PM

I'd take the money back and put it towards an LS2 or LS3.

Timmy_Jones · 05-19-2015, 09:35 AM

Thanks guys, trying to gauge what people thought of their FI setup, in retrospect.

Also interesting to hear when you went back and drove an NA car.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 05-19-2015, 10:01 AM

I could have saved myself the $31350+25000 cost of car and parts and kept my 135i in hindsight if I was smart.

Never again.

nelsmar · 05-19-2015, 10:07 AM

After everything I have done and all the cars I have tuned if I could do it all over again I would just have done a vortech or an avo kit. Both are the easiest things in the world to tune, have great headroom without having to upgrade the unit. Have been on the market for longer than most and have their kinks sorted. And they look / feel more stock. Both are sized very well and are very cost efficient when you consider the headroom and what they offer when it comes to ease of tuning. I could probably do 1-3 flashes to get "close enough" for daily use on my own car when it comes to tuning those.

For reference I have a gtx30r running mid 20's psi on ethanol and I have been browsing transmissible options as I am on my third one, and have already broken a set of DSS axles. So I have had my fair share of boost. lol

I went on a canyon drive last night and turned my car down to 8psi (on ethanol) and rarely broke 1/4 throttle. There is really little need for more than 8-12psi unless you are doing dedicated drag.

2016 Camaro SS · 05-19-2015, 10:21 AM

I'll probably just go for a 2017 Camaro SS. Comes modded already and for a pricetag of 40-43k, you get quite a bit. Granted my FR-S is still N/A, I've read enough builds, and parts needed to make it work and even then it is a dice roll. I just know if I add an SC, I'll be wanting even more power.

kbogarto · 05-19-2015, 12:57 PM

Sometimes I wish I had just bought a mustang GT for the sound of the V8. But I don't regret getting my AVO kit because I have learned so much from doing it.

huhu89151734 · 05-19-2015, 02:53 PM

If I could have all my money back I would really go for a Gen 2 cayman with PDK....

erbaker67 · 05-19-2015, 04:02 PM

Great thread man. Thanks.

05-18-2015, 04:03 PM	#1
Timmy_Jones Spun Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 17' Focus RS Location: New England Posts: 1,179 Thanks: 396 Thanked 400 Times in 273 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Would you take your $ spent and a stock motor, over your FI setup? If you could go back to stock and have the $ spent back, would you? Thinking of doing a ‘mild’ turbo setup, around 7-10 PSI. Big intercooler, 93 octane, tuned via laptop and ECUtek. Local builder has built a few of these. My top priority is safety/reliability. Looking back, if you have a similar FI setup, would you do it again? I know this is a very subjective question, but that was the aim. Looking to gauge a general opinion.

05-18-2015, 04:06 PM	#2
protpibe Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4-Runner Sport - 13' BRZ SportTech Location: Winnipeg Posts: 1,395 Thanks: 253 Thanked 839 Times in 459 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No, i wouldn't. I've driven NA ones since boosting mine last year and they're incredibly boring. Personal opinion. __________________ Top Tier Imports - Check out my build journal HERE

05-18-2015, 04:21 PM	#3
Dream20b Y u do dis? Join Date: May 2014 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Northbrook, IL Posts: 465 Thanks: 832 Thanked 194 Times in 107 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nope, but I'd go big SC if I knew better when I started. 280 is not enough __________________ Dat Hot Lava Doe Clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. Everything you said was completely and utterly the ramblings of a babbling idiot regurgitating garbage from his mouth. Everyone here is now dumber from reading your post. Please die now.

05-19-2015, 10:07 AM	#10
nelsmar Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: Phoenix Posts: 2,605 Thanks: 733 Thanked 2,361 Times in 1,031 Posts Mentioned: 345 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	After everything I have done and all the cars I have tuned if I could do it all over again I would just have done a vortech or an avo kit. Both are the easiest things in the world to tune, have great headroom without having to upgrade the unit. Have been on the market for longer than most and have their kinks sorted. And they look / feel more stock. Both are sized very well and are very cost efficient when you consider the headroom and what they offer when it comes to ease of tuning. I could probably do 1-3 flashes to get "close enough" for daily use on my own car when it comes to tuning those. For reference I have a gtx30r running mid 20's psi on ethanol and I have been browsing transmissible options as I am on my third one, and have already broken a set of DSS axles. So I have had my fair share of boost. lol I went on a canyon drive last night and turned my car down to 8psi (on ethanol) and rarely broke 1/4 throttle. There is really little need for more than 8-12psi unless you are doing dedicated drag. __________________ When I grow up, I wanna be God. My flickr - *Canibeat* Local magazine scout Old Setup: Vortech Supercharged 360WHP/262WTQ @ 11.5psi My build thread - WTF happened to nelsmar's car thread

05-19-2015, 12:57 PM	#12
kbogarto Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ limited WRB Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 120 Thanks: 135 Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sometimes I wish I had just bought a mustang GT for the sound of the V8. But I don't regret getting my AVO kit because I have learned so much from doing it. __________________ 92 240sx (sold), 03 350z (sold), 13 BRZ (AVO turbo)

05-18-2015, 05:49 PM	#7
mhiscott Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: NL, Canada Posts: 179 Thanks: 35 Thanked 35 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'd take the money back and put it towards an LS2 or LS3.

05-19-2015, 09:35 AM	#8
Timmy_Jones Spun Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 17' Focus RS Location: New England Posts: 1,179 Thanks: 396 Thanked 400 Times in 273 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks guys, trying to gauge what people thought of their FI setup, in retrospect. Also interesting to hear when you went back and drove an NA car.

05-19-2015, 10:01 AM	#9
BRZZZZZZZZZZ Car Nut Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: BMW 335d, Toyota Echo RS, FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 1,557 Thanks: 368 Thanked 603 Times in 346 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I could have saved myself the $31350+25000 cost of car and parts and kept my 135i in hindsight if I was smart. Never again.

05-19-2015, 10:21 AM	#11
2016 Camaro SS Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Fast Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 790 Thanks: 114 Thanked 407 Times in 241 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll probably just go for a 2017 Camaro SS. Comes modded already and for a pricetag of 40-43k, you get quite a bit. Granted my FR-S is still N/A, I've read enough builds, and parts needed to make it work and even then it is a dice roll. I just know if I add an SC, I'll be wanting even more power.

05-19-2015, 02:53 PM	#13
huhu89151734 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 WRB BRZ Location: CA Posts: 102 Thanks: 46 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If I could have all my money back I would really go for a Gen 2 cayman with PDK....

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