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Highweigh · 10-12-2016, 02:31 PM

I was planning on purchasing a Borla axleback exhaust from someone on craigslist.

The picture they posted looks different than the Borla axlebacks online. Can anyone tell me why these are different? The craigslist one clearly looks smaller.

V1?V2? Part of a catback or something?

Craigslist Borla

FT-86 Club Borla

Silver Cervy · 10-12-2016, 02:37 PM

Not seeing it listed under BRZ parts on the official Borla website so buy at your own risk. Could be a catback for a WRX that happens to fit on a BRZ, as I've heard that many exhaust systems are compatible between the two.

NyC Zn6 · 10-12-2016, 03:19 PM

Yea looks like the Borla in the first pic is different from the FT86 one. Check out the hanger locations they are different. Also it could be because the actual muffler is larger in the FT86 pic.

Highweigh · 10-12-2016, 03:27 PM

So I texted the guy selling it and asked him where it was from and he said that it was a dealer option and came on the car from the dealer.

Could this be why they are different? Would Borla offer items to a dealer that the general public wouldn't be able to purchase?

EDIT:

Okay so I think the Borla exhaust that comes from the dealer is in fact different. I found this video and at around 45 seconds they show the Borla exhaust and it looks like the one from the craigslist post.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6tW4eCNuI4"]FRS with Factory Borla Exhaust - YouTube[/ame]

Also found another thread where someone else had the Borla exhaust from the dealer it is the same as the craigslist one.

renfield90 · 10-12-2016, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Highweigh

So I texted the guy selling it and asked him where it was from and he said that it was a dealer option and came on the car from the dealer.

Could this be why they are different? Would Borla offer items to a dealer that the general public wouldn't be able to purchase?

This sounds very unlikely to me. Buy at your own risk.

Edit: ok I see the video. Guess it might be ok, just never heard of a dealer doing that.

Cole · 10-12-2016, 03:39 PM

I recall reading about a dealership that had a "borla exhaust" on every single frs on the lot. If I recall correctly, they weren't an off the shelf item, and all were made by an exhaust shop. They look like the one you posted.

jawn · 10-12-2016, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole

I recall reading about a dealership that had a "borla exhaust" on every single frs on the lot. If I recall correctly, they weren't an off the shelf item, and all were made by an exhaust shop. They look like the one you posted.

The dealer option Borla axleback is different from the direct-to-consumer Borla axleback, for unknown reasons.

Cole · 10-12-2016, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn

The dealer option Borla axleback is different from the direct-to-consumer Borla axleback, for unknown reasons.

Yes, but, I feel like there was a dealer Florida that had exhaust shop ones done up for all their cars.

I'll find the thread when I'm less lazy.

Though I could be going crazy and I'm entirely wrong.

ryoma · 10-12-2016, 05:05 PM

regardless, it still looks kind of sketchy to me. unless you're paying like $100, don't buy it.

Summerwolf · 10-12-2016, 05:47 PM

Borla had two axlebacks available outside the dealership. Touring and Type S. Pretty sure the Type S was a smaller casing and the "sport" version which was louder.

This was the thread someone mentioned about the dealer installed axleback. Not sure if that's your part or not.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32968

Gunman · 10-12-2016, 10:24 PM

Borla has 2 axle backs:

I have this one:
FR-S/ BRZ 2013-2016 Axle-Back Exhaust Touring part # 11839
https://www.borla.com/products/frs_b...rt__11839.html

and this is the dealer option, and EC-Type approved (Europe legal), which is why it is the dealer option:
BRZ/GT86 2013-2014 part # 1014034
https://www.borla.com/products/brzgt...__1014034.html

radroach · 10-13-2016, 10:31 AM

@Highweigh I remember getting so irritated when I first saw that video, first the whistle tips and then him rapping his knuckles on the trunk of an unsold car.

Tcoat · 10-13-2016, 11:05 AM

I still find this sketchy.
Look at the welds at the pipe to housing joints and where the tips join here:

Now look at the joints on the real thing:

Of course it could be a cut rate lower value exhaust made for the dealers but damn that is a huge difference in quality (at least visually).

churchx · 10-13-2016, 12:32 PM

"real thing" looks slightly CG render to me or at least not foreign to heavy photoshop magic

10-12-2016, 02:31 PM	#1
Highweigh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: '13 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	whats up with this? I was planning on purchasing a Borla axleback exhaust from someone on craigslist. The picture they posted looks different than the Borla axlebacks online. Can anyone tell me why these are different? The craigslist one clearly looks smaller. V1?V2? Part of a catback or something? Craigslist Borla FT-86 Club Borla

10-12-2016, 03:27 PM	#4
Highweigh Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Drives: '13 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So I texted the guy selling it and asked him where it was from and he said that it was a dealer option and came on the car from the dealer. Could this be why they are different? Would Borla offer items to a dealer that the general public wouldn't be able to purchase? EDIT: Okay so I think the Borla exhaust that comes from the dealer is in fact different. I found this video and at around 45 seconds they show the Borla exhaust and it looks like the one from the craigslist post. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6tW4eCNuI4"]FRS with Factory Borla Exhaust - YouTube[/ame] Also found another thread where someone else had the Borla exhaust from the dealer it is the same as the craigslist one. Last edited by Highweigh; 10-12-2016 at 03:42 PM.

10-12-2016, 05:05 PM	#9
ryoma Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited CWP Location: SoCal Posts: 1,561 Thanks: 34 Thanked 669 Times in 469 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	regardless, it still looks kind of sketchy to me. unless you're paying like $100, don't buy it. __________________ My 2015 CWP BRZ Build

10-13-2016, 11:05 AM	#13
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,845 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,285 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2495 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	I still find this sketchy. Look at the welds at the pipe to housing joints and where the tips join here: Now look at the joints on the real thing: Of course it could be a cut rate lower value exhaust made for the dealers but damn that is a huge difference in quality (at least visually). __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

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Silver Cervy Some really cool title Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: Matthews, NC Posts: 343 Thanks: 39 Thanked 211 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not seeing it listed under BRZ parts on the official Borla website so buy at your own risk. Could be a catback for a WRX that happens to fit on a BRZ, as I've heard that many exhaust systems are compatible between the two.

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NyC Zn6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 10 Series #974 6m/t Location: NYC Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 1,357 Thanked 1,141 Times in 669 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Yea looks like the Borla in the first pic is different from the FT86 one. Check out the hanger locations they are different. Also it could be because the actual muffler is larger in the FT86 pic.

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Cole Not a troll Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 5,104 Thanks: 8,237 Thanked 5,399 Times in 2,694 Posts Mentioned: 266 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I recall reading about a dealership that had a "borla exhaust" on every single frs on the lot. If I recall correctly, they weren't an off the shelf item, and all were made by an exhaust shop. They look like the one you posted.

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Summerwolf Panda Trueno Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: No twin now. Location: North Indiana Posts: 3,347 Thanks: 2,113 Thanked 2,407 Times in 1,332 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Borla had two axlebacks available outside the dealership. Touring and Type S. Pretty sure the Type S was a smaller casing and the "sport" version which was louder. This was the thread someone mentioned about the dealer installed axleback. Not sure if that's your part or not. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32968

10-13-2016, 10:31 AM	#12
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	@Highweigh I remember getting so irritated when I first saw that video, first the whistle tips and then him rapping his knuckles on the trunk of an unsold car.

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