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Old 11-07-2022, 01:42 PM   #99
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the curve looks promising.
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Old 11-07-2022, 02:31 PM   #100
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the curve looks promising.
What am I missing? The dip from 3.5-4.5K looks like it mirrors stock. There is more power there sure, and its not as wide or deep as the FA20's dip, but I thought we'd see it flatten out more with the header and tune..

Starting to look like Subaru may have tuned this one much more aggressively than the FA20, and like there isn't going to be a whole lot to gain with out FI (particularly when you take E85 out of the equation)
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Old 11-07-2022, 02:54 PM   #101
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What am I missing? The dip from 3.5-4.5K looks like it mirrors stock. There is more power there sure, and its not as wide or deep as the FA20's dip, but I thought we'd see it flatten out more with the header and tune..

Starting to look like Subaru may have tuned this one much more aggressively than the FA20, and like there isn't going to be a whole lot to gain with out FI (particularly when you take E85 out of the equation)
It has been said from a few tuners that the FA24 is optimized much better from the factory. As for the dyno plot, different header designs will shape the chart differently. You cannot draw a conclusion from one data point.
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Old 11-07-2022, 03:07 PM   #102
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Header development has just begun. My impression is that the stock tune will give some unicorn results at first and then start to tune the power out over time according to fuel quality.
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Old 11-07-2022, 03:11 PM   #103
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Would like to see a header + 91 or 93 tune, no e85.
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FI result of 4psi and 91oct. End results were 319whp and 246ftlb with 8psi and 91oct. Check out how high they are revving it!
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Here come the blown motors
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+30dB! Full bolt on only!

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FI result of 4psi and 91oct. End results were 319whp and 246ftlb with 8psi and 91oct. Check out how high they are revving it!

They later corrected the dyno, it's not revving beyond 7600 RPM.
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​Tuned today with Mike from Xero Limit. JDL UEL, ISIS Overpipe (left over from my first gen and they've since rebranded for obvious reasons), CSG Catback, and K&N panel filter. Charcoal filter in place. Lower two pulls on this plot are stock tune with all of the same mods.​ On 93 octane.



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230/180+ to the wheels on 93 with basic boltons.. Nice.
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We were told by several owners that the "AT" version of this car has a transmission that "lacks" in several areas.
So we have purchased a TCU to get into.
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FI result of 4psi and 91oct. End results were 319whp and 246ftlb with 8psi and 91oct. Check out how high they are revving it!
So when someone else dyno's the car it will be what, 280whp 210ftlb then?
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So when someone else dyno's the car it will be what, 280whp 210ftlb then?

Nah, they corrected the dyno and posted fixed dyno plots.
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