Stock catback w/header sound OK? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

xDanger_208x · 02-06-2014, 12:44 AM

So I installed my new JDL EL header, overpipe and catted frontpipe today. I bolted it all up to my Tomei 60s, drove just 300 feet and decided this thing sounds insanely stupid ridiculous loud.
To say I hated it would be an enormous understatement.

So it's looking like the Tomei will be going up for sale soon. The only problem is I don't really care for any of the other catback options out there.
So... How might that all sound with the factory catback? Is there going to be a large restriction in power?

I have to do something because there's no way I'll pass for noise at autox with this exhaust... Much less nationals.

jflogerzi · 02-06-2014, 12:48 AM

Stock should really mellow it out. I have heard a few videos and they a nice balance. Stock CBE does a good job killing rasp and noise.

xDanger_208x · 02-06-2014, 12:50 AM

I figure if it ends up sounding decent I'll throw some nice tips on it, paint the muffler black and just run with it.

husker741 · 02-06-2014, 12:51 AM

Go back to stock catback. Or get an Invidia Q300, Perrin resonated, or something of that sort.

chas3wba0 · 02-06-2014, 01:29 AM

Greddy SP Elite axleback? One of the quietest aftermarket exhausts our there, and uses the factory midpipe.

Fast_Freddy · 02-06-2014, 04:24 AM

The stock CBE sounds very good with a header or header/OP/FP. Nice sound level, not too loud, very little rasp and no drone. I ran both setups for a while but ultimately had a custom axle-back made to deepen and enhance the tone and overall sound quality. Now it sounds much better in every way except a very small increase in highway drone. I strongly suspect that a SP Elite or Q300 would sound quite similar with the Q300 being not as deep.

The one bad thing about a header/OP/FP with oem CBE is that it sounds pretty bad on cold starts until the rpm drop. My neighbor asked me what was wrong with my car when they heard it. It's hard to explain the cold-start sound other than to say that it was unpleasant. The new Magnaflow ABE mutes the noisy cold start much better.

StormTrooper · 02-06-2014, 05:55 AM

The JDM tips for the 86 look nice and should bolt up fine.

xDanger_208x · 02-06-2014, 07:39 AM

Cold start with the full exhaust + Tomei was louder than anything I've ever heard before... And I use to work for IMSA at Miller Motorsports Park...
So I doubt cold start with the factory catback will scare me ;-)

xDanger_208x · 02-06-2014, 03:57 PM

I just stumbled on the offerings from Miltek and it looks pretty good!
Anyone have any experience??

I know their exhaust for my old ST was very nice from what I saw.

FR-S Matt · 02-06-2014, 04:07 PM

I have both the N1 and Q300. Q300 is a lot quieter, doesn't have the deep rumble like the N1 does due to more muffle. It's still deep, but that tone is really muffled a lot because of the muffler.

I personally kept the N1 on because it is the closest sound to an STi there is. Deep, bass sounding, loud too. 0 rasp, does have a little drone, but that does not bother me. Q300 is great for someone looking for good performance but keep the exhaust sound down.

IAmNotTheDriftKing · 02-06-2014, 04:44 PM

I have JDL UEL headers, with an OP+catted frontpipe with the Perrin catback and it is perfect!! I daily drive the car(for the most part) and on the highway there is zero drone and you can have a conversation no problem. The Perrin Catback has a big resonator and a muffler. It is actually pretty tame. At WOT I do wish it was louder though. Which is why for autocrossing and track days I am getting a muffler delete made to attach to the rear of it

Kelbyat07 · 02-06-2014, 04:54 PM

Tomei are loud as heck. Stock catback should be ok, but if you want something loud but not too loud go with Invidia Q300, Invidia N1, or Greddy SP Elite.

xDanger_208x · 02-06-2014, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

Tomei are loud as heck. Stock catback should be ok, but if you want something loud but not too loud go with Invidia Q300, Invidia N1, or Greddy SP Elite.

I loved the Tomei 60s on the otherwise stock exhaust. Sound was perfect!

mush · 02-06-2014, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xDanger_208x

I just stumbled on the offerings from Miltek and it looks pretty good!
Anyone have any experience??

I know their exhaust for my old ST was very nice from what I saw.

I have the milltek non resonated catback, and im happy with it so far

02-06-2014, 12:44 AM	#1
xDanger_208x Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Posts: 483 Thanks: 200 Thanked 129 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stock catback w/header sound OK? So I installed my new JDL EL header, overpipe and catted frontpipe today. I bolted it all up to my Tomei 60s, drove just 300 feet and decided this thing sounds insanely stupid ridiculous loud. To say I hated it would be an enormous understatement. So it's looking like the Tomei will be going up for sale soon. The only problem is I don't really care for any of the other catback options out there. So... How might that all sound with the factory catback? Is there going to be a large restriction in power? I have to do something because there's no way I'll pass for noise at autox with this exhaust... Much less nationals. __________________ My STX build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55616

02-06-2014, 12:50 AM	#3
xDanger_208x Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Posts: 483 Thanks: 200 Thanked 129 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I figure if it ends up sounding decent I'll throw some nice tips on it, paint the muffler black and just run with it. __________________ My STX build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55616

02-06-2014, 01:29 AM	#5
chas3wba0 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Yes Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,052 Thanks: 1,629 Thanked 813 Times in 407 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Greddy SP Elite axleback? One of the quietest aftermarket exhausts our there, and uses the factory midpipe. __________________ "If thy pleaſure be in Underſteere, thou art Weird." - Distraxi

02-06-2014, 07:39 AM	#8
xDanger_208x Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Posts: 483 Thanks: 200 Thanked 129 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cold start with the full exhaust + Tomei was louder than anything I've ever heard before... And I use to work for IMSA at Miller Motorsports Park... So I doubt cold start with the factory catback will scare me ;-) __________________ My STX build thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55616

02-06-2014, 04:44 PM	#11
IAmNotTheDriftKing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: I own an FR-S. . . whatelse! Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 318 Thanks: 114 Thanked 140 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have JDL UEL headers, with an OP+catted frontpipe with the Perrin catback and it is perfect!! I daily drive the car(for the most part) and on the highway there is zero drone and you can have a conversation no problem. The Perrin Catback has a big resonator and a muffler. It is actually pretty tame. At WOT I do wish it was louder though. Which is why for autocrossing and track days I am getting a muffler delete made to attach to the rear of it Last edited by IAmNotTheDriftKing; 02-06-2014 at 04:55 PM.

02-06-2014, 12:51 AM	#4
husker741 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 Whiteout Scion FR-S 6MT Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 3,272 Thanks: 1,278 Thanked 4,183 Times in 1,415 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Go back to stock catback. Or get an Invidia Q300, Perrin resonated, or something of that sort.

02-06-2014, 04:24 AM	#6
Fast_Freddy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Passat Location: East Coast Posts: 626 Thanks: 331 Thanked 188 Times in 130 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The stock CBE sounds very good with a header or header/OP/FP. Nice sound level, not too loud, very little rasp and no drone. I ran both setups for a while but ultimately had a custom axle-back made to deepen and enhance the tone and overall sound quality. Now it sounds much better in every way except a very small increase in highway drone. I strongly suspect that a SP Elite or Q300 would sound quite similar with the Q300 being not as deep. The one bad thing about a header/OP/FP with oem CBE is that it sounds pretty bad on cold starts until the rpm drop. My neighbor asked me what was wrong with my car when they heard it. It's hard to explain the cold-start sound other than to say that it was unpleasant. The new Magnaflow ABE mutes the noisy cold start much better.

02-06-2014, 03:57 PM	#9
xDanger_208x Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Posts: 483 Thanks: 200 Thanked 129 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just stumbled on the offerings from Miltek and it looks pretty good! Anyone have any experience?? I know their exhaust for my old ST was very nice from what I saw.

02-06-2014, 04:54 PM	#12
Kelbyat07 Poor College Kid Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: ~.~ Location: Chicago Posts: 2,801 Thanks: 246 Thanked 2,182 Times in 1,249 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Tomei are loud as heck. Stock catback should be ok, but if you want something loud but not too loud go with Invidia Q300, Invidia N1, or Greddy SP Elite. __________________

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