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Old 04-20-2016, 04:42 AM   #1107
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Just want let you know that Shiv sent me a stg 2 91 uel f00c rom to test if the OFT reads the MAFv and IAM. After flashing this I am happy to say that the OFT does report MAFv and IAM and FLKC (btw flkc used to report mostly -5. but now it is at "0" most of the time) And as he requested, I did somde some 2k-7.5k WOT 3rd gears pulls and sent him the logs.
here are my logs from the pulls after this flash

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...v?log=0&data=1

this is what I was getting with the OTS Stg 2 91 UEL prior

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/ots-s...e?log=0&data=1

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Old 04-20-2016, 09:19 AM   #1108
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@Dru670 those are bad links, they're broken at all of the periods. I went to your datazap profile and checked out your latest uploads though. Looks like the logging is working much better, which is good.

That's still quite a bit of FLKC for my tastes. I think your fuel quality is just too poor on the 91 octane, even though your car is running slightly on the rich side.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:13 AM   #1109
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@Dru670 those are bad links, they're broken at all of the periods. I went to your datazap profile and checked out your latest uploads though. Looks like the logging is working much better, which is good.

That's still quite a bit of FLKC for my tastes. I think your fuel quality is just too poor on the 91 octane, even though your car is running slightly on the rich side.
I fixed the links. As for the AFRs i'm not sure if using engine break (fuel cut-off) is why you'd see AFR from 20 down to 15ish I literally did the 3rd gear pull and let off the pedal and let 3rd gear slow me back down often stepping on the clutch to let me roll free for a sec before doing another 3rd gear pull. All these 3rd gear runs was done consecutively on the highway luckily with no traffic last night.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:20 AM   #1110
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I fixed the links. As for the AFRs i'm not sure if using engine break (fuel cut-off) is why you'd see AFR from 20 down to 15ish I literally did the 3rd gear pull and let off the pedal and let 3rd gear slow me back down often stepping on the clutch to let me roll free for a sec before doing another 3rd gear pull. All these 3rd gear runs was done consecutively on the highway luckily with no traffic last night.
I wasn't talking about the decel fuel cut, you're running a few AFR points rich at WOT. Not a big deal and should in theory help prevent a little bit of the knock that you're getting. The FLKC you're getting is "stock-like" which isn't great. Your 91 octane NV piss water isn't very good.
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I wasn't talking about the decel fuel cut, you're running a few AFR points rich at WOT. Not a big deal and should in theory help prevent a little bit of the knock that you're getting. The FLKC you're getting is "stock-like" which isn't great. Your 91 octane NV piss water isn't very good.
Oh got you. This is Shell 91. Chevron better?
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Old 04-20-2016, 07:49 PM   #1112
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Hey guys, just wondering if you guys could please check these logs for knock?

I setup alerts on OFT yesterday and noticed the IAM alert going off while driving on the highway. Normal street driving was fine, this was just on the highway.

IAM drops to .98, FLCK hits -1.2 and -1.3

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/20...data=1-5-10-11

http://datazap.me/u/thaalkaholiks/20...data=1-5-10-11

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Old 04-20-2016, 09:24 PM   #1113
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You don't need to worry about 0.98.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:15 PM   #1114
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Is there something wrong here? Shiv sent me a test tune to see if the OFT reports IAM and MAF voltage. with the Stg 2 UEL F00C I was getting constant 0 for IAM and MAFv and FLKC was -5. all the time. He sent me a B01C rom and with that I now get the IAM, MAF voltage read outs and last night I sent shiv my first data log after I flashed the test tune. here
http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...v?log=0&data=1

Today I did another log but i'm seeing mostly .4 IAM. Is there any explanation for this? I heard it's good to be around 1.

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/iam-s...2-7-9-12-13-14
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:24 PM   #1115
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Is there something wrong here? Shiv sent me a test tune to see if the OFT reports IAM and MAF voltage. with the Stg 2 UEL F00C I was getting constant 0 for IAM and MAFv and FLKC was -5. all the time. He sent me a B01C rom and with that I now get the IAM, MAF voltage read outs and last night I sent shiv my first data log after I flashed the test tune. here
http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...v?log=0&data=1

Today I did another log but i'm seeing mostly .4 IAM. Is there any explanation for this? I heard it's good to be around 1.

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/iam-s...2-7-9-12-13-14


get onto the oft guys the log looks weird
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:21 PM   #1116
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if your on 91 yeah those new tunes are way too aggressive its good 93 only or better.

if you want the lower\mid rpm benifits of the new tune without the aggressive top end then grab @Wayno s 98 ron tune and port the tables accross with romraider to your d00C map, you will get the best result on 91 as its close to our 98.
@steve99 @Wayno So which tune am i copying that base timing B table from? I see a stage 2 98 lean and rich. Both those tables are same when comparing, but is this the correct tune to copy from? Different then mine I see. Finally figured out how to load all these tunes with the 3 different definitions to see differences =D. I went back and read what you both said to copy all these tables over, that from the rich or lean version stage 2 98 in those zips? stage 2 98 uel in both (rich / lean)then copy the Base timing A, Base Timing B, Knock Correction MAX A, Timing Compensation (IAT), Timing compensation IAT (Activation) and then OL and CL, + particularly for tip in above 4k. I see many tables differ between those. Thanks again! Sorry to be asking so many questions, I just want to make sure im doing things right and not mess up.

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@steve99 @Wayno So which tune am i copying that base timing B table from? I see a stage 2 98 lean and rich. Both those tables are same when comparing, but is this the correct tune to copy from? Different then mine I see. Finally figured out how to load all these tunes with the 3 different definitions to see differences =D. I went back and read what wayno said to copy all those tables over, that from the rich or lean version stage 2 98? I see many tables differ between those. Thanks again! Sorry to be asking so many questions, I just want to make sure im doing things right and not mess up my ecu/motor.

if you do a comparision between rich and lean versions im pretty sure its just maf scaling differences, just use the maf scale that suits your car best
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where can I get a copy of that tune?
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if you do a comparision between rich and lean versions im pretty sure its just maf scaling differences, just use the maf scale that suits your car best
shiv says the new OFH tune is very aggressive and to be careful with it for users in CA, NV and AZ. I'm in NV. This this tune you mention of Wayno a bit safer for me in NV? I would love that low to mid that you saying.
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where can I get a copy of that tune?
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83945At the bottom of the page are zip files for the different fuels. Do not try and use them as they probably wouldnt load to your oft. However you can view them in rom raider, and compair the tables etc and even change them to match if so desired.
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