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[brzd]

Hi there,

I've been using the OTS stage 2 base map for a while and wanted to learn how to dial it in using Wayno's guide but saw some other's using Shiv's OFH stage 2 uel maps for a gruppe-s header so I thought i'd give it a try cause it's less work... LOL

Can someone take a look? I noticed some knock -0.6~ around 6000k rpm in my 2nd pull

I have a drop in K&N filter, gruppe-s header and everything else practically stock

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=0&data=1

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=1&data=1

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=2&data=1

[steve99]

Originally Posted by brzd

Hi there,

I've been using the OTS stage 2 base map for a while and wanted to learn how to dial it in using Wayno's guide but saw some other's using Shiv's OFH stage 2 uel maps for a gruppe-s header so I thought i'd give it a try cause it's less work... LOL

Can someone take a look? I noticed some knock -0.6~ around 6000k rpm in my 2nd pull

I have a drop in K&N filter, gruppe-s header and everything else practically stock

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=0&data=1

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=1&data=1

http://datazap.me/u/brzd/ofh-stage-2-uel?log=2&data=1

its looks fine, nothing drastic wrong.

It running a little on the rich side, bit of maf scaling and wayno's load limits will sort it if tour keen. You could try the new OFH maps but they are more aggressive that the standard off the shelf tunes. your just srarting to get slight knock so its likely to get worse on the ofh specific maps

[fibble]

Hi guys,

I am currently fine tuning a Stg 1 tune for my local fuel here in Melbourne - Caltex Vortex 98.

Car is a D00G rom and currently 100% stock.

The current tune is an OFT OTS v2.076 with only modified timing tables, Base Timing B, KCA Max A and IAT/ECT compensation. Values are very similar to Wayno's.
Car has been running for a week or so on the current tune.

I noted today when real-time monitoring through OFT that FLKC is now almost constantly at +5.00.

Does anyone have any suggestions for why this might be the case?

I will go for a drive and post some logs shortly.

Thx

[steve99]

Originally Posted by fibble

Hi guys,

I am currently fine tuning a Stg 1 tune for my local fuel here in Melbourne - Caltex Vortex 98.

Car is a D00G rom and currently 100% stock.

The current tune is an OFT OTS v2.076 with only modified timing tables, Base Timing B, KCA Max A and IAT/ECT compensation. Values are very similar to Wayno's.
Car has been running for a week or so on the current tune.

I noted today when real-time monitoring through OFT that FLKC is now almost constantly at +5.00.

Does anyone have any suggestions for why this might be the case?

I will go for a drive and post some logs shortly.

Thx

OFT logging of D00G roms has a few problems with flkc iam and mafV from memory

you will have to use KCLearned to derive iam and flkc see the links below on logging and knock correction

[fibble]

Thx Steve - I had a sneaking suspicion that it may be the OFT, but I have been monitoring/logging this tune for over a week now and this has only happened today.

IAM, Knock Correction and MAF v definitely dead, but FLKC seemed to be working as expected.

As you can imagine, I'm confused.......

[Wayno]

Shouldn't be any issue with flkc on D00G, only MAFV and IAM, neither of which you strictly need.

+FLKC only happens when IAM < 1.
5 degrees is a lot, more than what's in KCA table.
To add 5 degrees back in, the ecu first has to take it out, which you would definitely feel, without a doubt.

Best to do a log and directly compare the total timing logged to Base Timing + KCA.

or log KC learned and compare it to the table, which should be easy as each column is a static value.

That way you can find which parameters are reliable, and which aren't.

[Boomerang]

Mine is a D00G Rom too, running stage 2 EL85 tune.
Bit worried as I am running +50 flkc ??
Log;

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...0&data=1-11-13


Is it the OFT logging issue or something else?
Appears the flkc follows the ignition advance on the chart?
Any advice appreciated...

Log before E85 tune link below (OFT stg 1 D00G), flkc seems ok on this tune?

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/stg1-b...og=0&data=1-13

[fibble]

OK guys - something definitely wrong.......

I have attached 3 logs - startup, steady driving and a short WOT.

http://datazap.me/u/fibble/runs-show...t?log=0&data=1

FLKC is ridiculous - +35, etc (obviously the display only reads max of +/- 5.00).

My view is now that OFT is broken - I suspect that FLKC (and maybe even KC Learned) are useless for D00G roms.

Given that I logged the exact same tune a week ago and the FLKC value appeared to be behaving normally:

http://datazap.me/u/fibble/wot-stage...ata=1&mark=170

I believe an update via OFM may have seriously screwed something up.
Now, this is all supposition, so I would appreciate people's thoughts.

Is my car going to explode, implode, give birth, etc?
Looking through the doubtful/useless OFT data can I still tell that the tune is OK?
Given my previous logs, am I safe enough for now (while I am blind in real-time)?

Another catch up with Shiv is on the cards.

I have to admit to being very dis-heartened. Maybe I should have stuck with tried and true EcuFlash and my Tactrix. IMHO - the OFT is not really quite ready for later model ROMs.

Boomerang - you and I are in the same boat here, so I will keep you in the loop on anything I find out.

[fibble]

Originally Posted by Boomerang

Mine is a D00G Rom too, running stage 2 EL85 tune.
Bit worried as I am running +50 flkc ??
Log;

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...0&data=1-11-13


Is it the OFT logging issue or something else?
Appears the flkc follows the ignition advance on the chart?
Any advice appreciated...

Log before E85 tune link below (OFT stg 1 D00G), flkc seems ok on this tune?

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/stg1-b...og=0&data=1-13

Boomy - I suggest you remove Knock Correction, Advance Multiplier, and MAF Voltage from your logs as they definitely don't work.

Replace with MAF, and two of (Command AFR, Fuel System Status and Oil Temp) depending on your needs.

[Wayno]

Re: D00G guys, If you run the my Stg2 maps you only need to log AFR to see if you need to switch to the lean maf scale. My maps won't drop your IAM. Provided you have no intake or exhaust leaks. I've found no alternate maf scale has been required on Stg1, so no need to log that. PM me if you want files directly.

[Wayno]

Pretty obvious FLKC is pointing to one of the total timing addresses.

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...3&zoom=129-209

Originally Posted by Boomerang

Mine is a D00G Rom too, running stage 2 EL85 tune.
Bit worried as I am running +50 flkc ??
Log;

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...0&data=1-11-13


Is it the OFT logging issue or something else?
Appears the flkc follows the ignition advance on the chart?
Any advice appreciated...

Log before E85 tune link below (OFT stg 1 D00G), flkc seems ok on this tune?

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/stg1-b...og=0&data=1-13

[fibble]

Originally Posted by Wayno

Re: D00G guys, If you run the my Stg2 maps you only need to log AFR to see if you need to switch to the lean maf scale. My maps won't drop your IAM. Provided you have no intake or exhaust leaks. I've found no alternate maf scale has been required on Stg1, so no need to log that. PM me if you want files directly.

Thx Wayno.

Just to check 100% - I think you are saying that aside from checking MAF scaling on Stg2, you feel that your Stg1 and Stg2 (Petrol and E85) maps are safe enough for us to run (on Aust 98 and E85) even without visibility of FLKC, KC, IAM, etc?

Are these the v107.2 files at the bottom of your helpful post here:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83945 ?

I imagine we use the v106 definition files you have listed?

I assume we use A01G as the base?

Unfortunately, not all tables are the same scale/values across ROMS so a little bit of extra work to convert for D00G (e.g. fuelling).

Originally Posted by Wayno

Pretty obvious FLKC is pointing to one of the total timing addresses.

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...3&zoom=129-209

Agreed - same on my logs. This supports my assumption that Openflash pushed an update to OFT over the last few days via OFM.

Cheers

[GenRuleAThumb]

Just did a quick data log to have you guys take a look and make sure everything looks good.

JDL UEL no cat
Top Speed Axelback
CAN 91 pisswater

Stage2 UEL Map

Car was warmed up for 5 min, then a short drive with 2 small pulls at the end. Just want you guys to take a look and make sure it all looks normal. Car runs great for the most part although last night had a weird hickup under <15% throttle a couple times, did not happen during the log or at all this morning.

http://datazap.me/u/genruleathumb/sc...t?log=0&data=1

[steve99]

Originally Posted by Boomerang

Mine is a D00G Rom too, running stage 2 EL85 tune.
Bit worried as I am running +50 flkc ??
Log;

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/log-14...0&data=1-11-13


Is it the OFT logging issue or something else?
Appears the flkc follows the ignition advance on the chart?
Any advice appreciated...

Log before E85 tune link below (OFT stg 1 D00G), flkc seems ok on this tune?

http://datazap.me/u/boomerang/stg1-b...og=0&data=1-13

Just ignore the flkc it not logging correctly, just make sure you have let oft upate via ofm connected to internet.

Looking at the KC Learned parameter their is no knock and your afr is fine just a little rich..

If you have a tactrix you can log using that