Are you waiting for Turbo? - Page 9 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tranzformer · 03-25-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 86fanatic

The car makes peak HP at 7000 and peak torque at 6400. The red line is already 7400.

Why exactly do you guys want a higher red line?

Dark · 03-25-2012, 11:09 PM

^^

Dark · 03-25-2012, 11:10 PM

Double post. Sorry.

switchlanez · 03-26-2012, 12:39 AM

There's an option to delete your post. Just click Edit then the delete button is somewhere in there. I'll delete this post sometime after you delete yours, hah.

chulooz · 03-26-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

There's an option to delete your post. Just click Edit then the delete button is somewhere in there. I'll delete this post sometime after you delete yours, hah.

Gotcha!

uspspro · 03-26-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 86fanatic

The car makes peak HP at 7000 and peak torque at 6400. The red line is already 7400.

Why exactly do you guys want a higher red line?

If the engine can keep producing good torque beyond the stock redline, then the power will continue to climb. The powerband will be bigger, and you will have higher top speeds in each gear.

The 6400 torque peak is a little deceptive since the "peak" is a small one. The torque curve is pretty flat. With that said, we don't know if the torque will remain flat over 7000 just yet. The engine might need cams, port work, or at least VVTi mapping to still produce torque at those revs.

Hanzo · 03-26-2012, 10:53 AM

Nope, I like the linear power delivery of NA engine.

meldarred · 03-26-2012, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by armythug

Havent had anything break on my wrx. Had to replace a fuel pump once.

100k and no engine problems on my STI... My Subaru has been rock solid..

tranzformer · 03-26-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by meldarred

100k and no engine problems on my STI... My Subaru has been rock solid..

Stock car? I wonder if many of the problems noted with the WRX/STI are related to owners who mod their car and expect it to run just like stock without issues.

IntenseDVDA · 03-26-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gdi2290

BRZ 25k will turbo in the future

Now the question is: will you wait for turbo?

I would like to have more power that would be awesome, but I would rather have better fuel economy. If the turbo version has less MPG then for sure I'll be happy with my NA. What do you guys think?

Late to the game, but my answer is no. In purchasing the BRZ, I'm really trying to focus on the fundamentals of driving fast. If you're able to be quick in a car with adequate power, when the time comes to step up to the M3's of the world you'll be all the more ready. Not saying I'm getting an M3 or getting rid of the BRZ anytime in the near future, but I want to master it before going big on power.

Turbowned · 03-26-2012, 11:25 AM

I'm more interested in supercharging the car. I have owned a few high-output N/A engines as well as two turbo and two supercharged cars, and the S/C is my favorite; I love the linear power output and added torque the supercharger provides, and since maximum power is not my goal for this car, an extra 80-100hp with great response will fit the bill nicely!

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Originally Posted by arkybrz

I'll probably trade the current model for the turbo whenever it's announced.

This is another great option. Get the N/A version, and if the turbo model comes out a few years later, trade up!

meldarred · 03-26-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Stock car? I wonder if many of the problems noted with the WRX/STI are related to owners who mod their car and expect it to run just like stock without issues.

It's actually at Stage 2. I'm not sure how well versed you are on Impreza's, but the stock tune on my year had a lot of ringland issues. It was better for the car to get out of the stock tune.

I put a lot of time and research into all the mods I put on my car. From reading NASIOC, I can tell you that some people care about reliability and some people don't.

Turbowned · 03-26-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Yes. I want a turbo or SC.

- Tampa, FL

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Originally Posted by YaX

You're damn right I'm waiting for a turbo. I can live with mid 5 second 0-60 and about a 100 mph trap, but anything slower than that... jeeeeeez. I'm buying car for the handling, but having something so slow I have to open the door and push it along like a skateboard?

A sports car can no longer survive in this market without some power.

- Austin, TX

I must admit, these guys are exactly why Subaru needs to build a turbo model if they expect to sell any in the states of Texas and Florida. There aren't any winding roads in those states; it's all about straight-line speed. I was talking about it on the MR2 boards and low and behold it was a guy from TX and a guy from FL whining about it's lack of power.

swift996 · 03-26-2012, 11:55 AM

^ Geography plays a big role. I live in FL and hate the fact its so hard to find windy roads. I also couldn't go too low in HP either though. Having driven much faster sports cars for a long time now, it would be hard to go into something that slow. If I were driving a sedan or something like a Miata I'm sure I'd love the performance. I'm holding out for a turbo. Still love the BRZ, think it's a great car, I just need something with a little more power.

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swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 955 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^ Geography plays a big role. I live in FL and hate the fact its so hard to find windy roads. I also couldn't go too low in HP either though. Having driven much faster sports cars for a long time now, it would be hard to go into something that slow. If I were driving a sedan or something like a Miata I'm sure I'd love the performance. I'm holding out for a turbo. Still love the BRZ, think it's a great car, I just need something with a little more power.

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