New Rumor: Subaru Developing Turbo 4 2.0T for BRZ

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Wow, you're really gonna discredit Hachi.



More news is starting to emerge so there could be a good possibility of a BRZ Turbo. So to be 100% confident that it'll never happen is pure ignorance. Anything is possible

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/s...for-brz-turbo/

This is not "more news." Autoblog quoted Automotive News. No independent sources.

[jadewbj]

I like the quote where he says “there are a number of ways of increasing performance, with engine power output probably the most recognizable. Tires with a high level of grip are also essential.
These items can all be modified by customers after they have purchased the car.

Yet designing a low centre on gravity body from scratch can only be achieved by the car’s manufacturer. "

They know those who want more power will go and get it. They put the money into something the owner really can't change.

Thanks for posting the videos. It was really cool to learn all the little engine tricks and body things they did to the car. I am going to watch the toyota video now and see what they claim. It is funny that both companies basically make it sound like they did everything.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I like the quote where he says “there are a number of ways of increasing performance, with engine power output probably the most recognizable. Tires with a high level of grip are also essential.
These items can all be modified by customers after they have purchased the car.

Yet designing a low centre on gravity body from scratch can only be achieved by the car’s manufacturer. "

They know those who want more power will go and get it. They put the money into something the owner really can't change.

Thanks for posting the videos. It was really cool to learn all the little engine tricks and body things they did to the car. I am going to watch the toyota video now and see what they claim. It is funny that both companies basically make it sound like they did everything.

No problem. And agree, power and tires you can add later, but the basic foundation of the chassis -- i.e., cg height, balance, polar MOI, weight, material strength, suspension design -- are all things the manufacturer needs to get right from the beginning.

Unfortunately these are things that won't show up on a spec sheet and may get overlooked by the casual buyer (although I think a spirited test drive in both an Accord and FR-S would be enough to highlight a lot of these differences as well).

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by Unleashed

This is going to bump up the price of the BRZ to 35k-37k out the door for sure, I mean some subie dealerships are charging 32k for the current one out the door. Ridiculous. I would much rather turbo my current one or supercharge it.

For us it's 35K OTD already for the BRZ-L.

So a bit moer wouldn't hurt, 2dr coupe with F/I, over and STi,

I would much rather a factor BRZ with F/I, than an 4DR STi

Obviously these are rumors, guess we will wait and see.

[Shinji2787]

Originally Posted by BioRage

For us it's 35K OTD already for the BRZ-L.

So a bit moer wouldn't hurt, 2dr coupe with F/I, over and STi,

I would much rather a factor BRZ with F/I, than an 4DR STi

Obviously these are rumors, guess we will wait and see.

It would only be 35k plus otd if you let yourself throw away money and pay markup... I only paid 31k otd for my limited. And that's because I got a bunch of addons that most people wouldn't get. Otherwise it would've been just shy of of 30k

[ap5512]

Looks like Autoblog is fueling the speculations also..
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/22/s...for-brz-turbo/

[res]

Originally Posted by Shinji2787

It would only be 35k plus otd if you let yourself throw away money and pay markup... I only paid 31k otd for my limited. And that's because I got a bunch of addons that most people wouldn't get. Otherwise it would've been just shy of of 30k

I guess you did not notice that his price OTD is in Canada.

You would probably totally freak-out if you heard the OTD prices in Australia.

[Shinji2787]

Originally Posted by res

I guess you did not notice that his price OTD is in Canada.

You would probably totally freak-out if you heard the OTD prices in Australia.

Ah, apologies. I did not notice the location in the user profile information thing immediately.

[BioRage]

Originally Posted by Shinji2787

It would only be 35k plus otd if you let yourself throw away money and pay markup... I only paid 31k otd for my limited. And that's because I got a bunch of addons that most people wouldn't get. Otherwise it would've been just shy of of 30k

I'm from Canada, our prices are a lot more than you guys

starting:

Base, 27,xxx
Limited/sport-tech, 29, xxx

[res]

Originally Posted by Shinji2787

Ah, apologies. I did not notice the location in the user profile information thing immediately.

By the way, congratulations on your new GBS Limited MT BRZ.

I am in the Atlanta area and I have the exact same model, purchased in June with VIN 989.

Currently my only mods are window tint and Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires. The tires are a very nice improvement.

Good luck with your new BRZ.

[WRXGuy1]

Originally Posted by jadewbj

I like the quote where he says “there are a number of ways of increasing performance, with engine power output probably the most recognizable. Tires with a high level of grip are also essential.
These items can all be modified by customers after they have purchased the car.

Yet designing a low centre on gravity body from scratch can only be achieved by the car’s manufacturer. "

They know those who want more power will go and get it. They put the money into something the owner really can't change.

Thanks for posting the videos. It was really cool to learn all the little engine tricks and body things they did to the car. I am going to watch the toyota video now and see what they claim. It is funny that both companies basically make it sound like they did everything.

Exactly, which is why even though I love the WRX, I'm not a huge fan of economy cars tweaked into a sports car.

[Didierm]

Hey guys, I work for Subaru and I can say the Twin scroll turbo + DI 2.0L will be in the new Forester XT and new WRX. WRX may still be part hybrid but it isn't confirmed yet.

BRZ will have more power but we may only see it at the end of 2013 or early 2014. Still not confirmed weather it will be Turbo or NA with more power but there will be a more powerful BRZ.

[engee]

I think I only saw one other guy reference this. In my opinion, I could care less whether or not the turbo comes out. What I want are CAMS!!!

You hear that internet world! Someone go and develop camshafts for the car! Bump in power and keep it N/A.

Just my 0.02.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by chanomatik

I, too, recall this claim. I honestly think they jumped the gun when they announced that as we know the car costs not even $20k for them to build. I only believe this because the car's made of so many borrowed parts. Remove the R&D (or suppose the R&D eventually pays for itself within 10 years) and I honestly believe this car could sell for sub-$20k. However, that won't happen.

I think it's silly to say, "See what you can get for the same money" since there's really nothing to compare it to. For $25k I could put a nice down payment on a house. What's your point? I still wouldn't have a BRZ if I spent the money elsewhere, especially on something less exciting to drive!

You guys have to remember the exchange rates. Remember the car was announced in early 2008. If we kept the same exchange rate, the car would be alot cheaper. I'm glad they even pushed through with worldwide sales in the face of the rising yen. I'm sure there was some discussion of keeping the ft86 a JDM only goodie.