AVO turbo kit for BRZ - initial build thread

[Sportsguy83]

Can we stop the cockfight regarding the Japan Dyno Chart? AVO already explained that the Japan Dyno measured WHP and WTQ but the scale incorrectly says crank HP etc....

We already have a Dyno chart on USA gas, so just understand that is what the kit will offer you.

GOD help us!!

[AVOturboworld]

This is why I was waiting for the US dyno runs to launch the kit - the Japanese figures are great, but they are on a different gas quality and on a totally different type of dyno. The key points to concentrate on are the gains from baseline to turbocharged. At 4000rpm in 4th gear, which wasn't full load, you still see a 70+ ft/lbs of torque difference.

And seriously, keep in mind this was on 92 octane pump gas. Right from the gas station at the corner. No fudging, no boosters, just pump the gas and dyno. If you want some better figures, we can produce them easily, just ramp up the gas quality and run it 5th gear so there is more load. On the road with full load, full boost was achieved at 2500rpm in 4th, even on 91 octane. These are solid achievable figures, the real deal with no bs. 276hp with a 5-6psi out of the box package.

While we will look at 93/94 octane tunes, realize that with a good 91 octane base, the ECU will compensate for better gas quality and produce more power.

[ultra]

I much prefer this conservative, comprehensive and realistic tuning approach to the approach of throwing stuff on the dyno, filling it with E85, cranking the boost and bragging about numbers.

Let's not forget that 280hp or so crank hp is what JDM icons such as Evos and GTRs were limited to not so long ago and those were anything but slow. This car is also light compared to most cars these days, not to mention the balance,

I think it'd be a heckuva fun ride as-is.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

This is why I was waiting for the US dyno runs to launch the kit - the Japanese figures are great, but they are on a different gas quality and on a totally different type of dyno. The key points to concentrate on are the gains from baseline to turbocharged. At 4000rpm in 4th gear, which wasn't full load, you still see a 70+ ft/lbs of torque difference.

And seriously, keep in mind this was on 92 octane pump gas. Right from the gas station at the corner. No fudging, no boosters, just pump the gas and dyno. If you want some better figures, we can produce them easily, just ramp up the gas quality and run it 5th gear so there is more load. On the road with full load, full boost was achieved at 2500rpm in 4th, even on 91 octane. These are solid achievable figures, the real deal with no bs. 276hp with a 5-6psi out of the box package.

While we will look at 93/94 octane tunes, realize that with a good 91 octane base, the ECU will compensate for better gas quality and produce more power.

Most of us get it, Paul. We appreciate you guys posting realistic day-to-day numbers.

I bet it would love the clean 93 octane we get up here...or even the 94 octane.....

Would you suggest we pick up header wrap like in your pictures?

[Tansey86]

Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

This is why I was waiting for the US dyno runs to launch the kit - the Japanese figures are great, but they are on a different gas quality and on a totally different type of dyno. The key points to concentrate on are the gains from baseline to turbocharged. At 4000rpm in 4th gear, which wasn't full load, you still see a 70+ ft/lbs of torque difference.

And seriously, keep in mind this was on 92 octane pump gas. Right from the gas station at the corner. No fudging, no boosters, just pump the gas and dyno. If you want some better figures, we can produce them easily, just ramp up the gas quality and run it 5th gear so there is more load. On the road with full load, full boost was achieved at 2500rpm in 4th, even on 91 octane. These are solid achievable figures, the real deal with no bs. 276hp with a 5-6psi out of the box package.

While we will look at 93/94 octane tunes, realize that with a good 91 octane base, the ECU will compensate for better gas quality and produce more power.

Is this turbo good for 380 bhp or rwhp on pump gas ?

[AVOturboworld]

I'd probably suggest ceramic coating, to be honest. I did heat wrap because I got the exhaust manifold only a few days before the install/dyno/run to SEMA, and didn't have time to ceramic coat it. We'll add that as an option as well.

[Tylub]

Can't... wait... must... have... nowwwwwww...

Also when did you say you were having the US dyno again?

[AVOturboworld]

We'll be on the dyno again next week, after the finish of the road tuning on our way back from SEMA.

[ultra]

Curious to know:

- What the power numbers are from the base map

- How 'runnable' the base map is (if that makes sense)

- How much extra tuning is needed.

- Will AVO be doing extra tuning for this kit/car beyond the base map or would we have to find our own ECUtek tuner for the fine tuning?

[Bomb3r]

Originally Posted by ultra

Curious to know:

- What the power numbers are from the base map

- How 'runnable' the base map is (if that makes sense)

- How much extra tuning is needed.

- Will AVO be doing extra tuning for this kit/car beyond the base map or would we have to find our own ECUtek tuner for the fine tuning?

These are all questions that have been covered. Scroll back, read.

1. Power numbers have been mentioned a number of times, only a few posts back,
2. "runnable"? please explain??
3. Tuning is via an AVO EcuTek tune. So no tuning needed and AVO have said many times, this is the base map on a stage 1 kit, so there will be more development and tuning to come.

AVO have been good enough to give us the insight they have, all the details are available in this thread...

[Calum]

Originally Posted by ultra

- How 'runnable' the base map is (if that makes sense)

I'm pretty sure they are selling a complete tune, it's just optimized for 91 octane and low pressure. So there may be tunes for more power down the road. Personally I'm hoping a meth kit will be used for the stage 2. Combined I could see this kit making ~300 Whp. But that purely my uneducated opinion.


@AVOturboworld, what is the REV limiter set to in your tune? Are the racerom features included? John Visconti has posted about ECU controlled boost and the possibility of adding an ECU controlled meth kit. Are these things possible upgrades with your kit?

[Tansey86]

I really hope a larger turbo can be utilized with this kit, I love the look and the UEL but I want room to grow power wise, and when I mean grow I mean being able to push 500rwhp if I wanted to.

[ultra]

I've been following the thread pretty closely actually

To clarify - I'm curious whether the base map that comes with the kit is basically 'plug and play', i.e. Set and forget it, ready for the street, track or whatever you want to throw at it...or whether it's intended as a basic tune just to get you running until you can get to someone who can do a custom tune for your particular car.

Not my first rodeo with custom tuned turbo cars. The definition of a 'base map' varies greatly. Most times you'll benefit from a fine tune and you're almost always obligated to adjust any base tune to your particular car and driving conditions.

Then again, things are always progressing.

So, I'm thnk (hope) my question was legit. No offense meant.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by ultra

I've been following the thread pretty closely actually

To clarify - I'm curious whether the base map that comes with the kit is basically 'plug and play', i.e. Set and forget it, ready for the street, track or whatever you want to throw at it...or whether it's intended as a basic tune just to get you running until you can get to someone who can do a custom tune for your particular car.

Their initial tune is good to go. Another tune is if you want to tune for your specific car.