What would you name the toyobaru?

[OldSkoolToys]

Damn shame what they did to Pike's Peak.

[Jordo!]

Thanks for sharing the info, Matador (CarbonGT???)

Also, the Celica is the parent car of the Supra. They eventually became separate platforms, but not originally.

Check out the attached pdf for more history on the Celica...

[Lincoln Stax]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

including 3 consecutive safari rallies from 83-86- ... earning it the nickname "king of the desert")

Umm, that's 4 years. '83, '84, '85, '86.

Those are a lot of great pictures. Love to see the Celica's racing history. I didn't seen any 2nd-gen Celicas, though. Were they raced?

[cyde01]

lol 2nd gen is kinda easily forgotten and is used as a punch line by even celica fans.

[#87]

Are some people really so concerned with the name? Will the name genuinely affect your purchasing decision?

IMO it could be called Toyota POS and if it drives well I would still buy it.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Thanks for sharing the info, Matador (CarbonGT???)

Also, the Celica is the parent car of the Supra. They eventually became separate platforms, but not originally.

Check out the attached pdf for more history on the Celica...

I'm sorry, I did read all 4 pages of essay, but did I missed something? Yes, I know Supra was first called Celica XX or Celica Supra. I think, all the Supra fan knows that. I said 2kGT is "Father" of Supra, not giving birth mother (should I put or ?). Supra had M (I6) series engine like 2kGT and they used it for 3 gen, while Celica used T & R (I4) series engine. To put totally different engine in same car was rare thing to be done in JDM company in that time of era (70's). IIRC Nissan 200sx had V6 in US (from mid 80's). Yeah, we see it in almost every car now days (Accord, Eclipse, & blah blah blah). I could go on and on, but this thread isn't about "If Supra is related to Celica". I guess these topic can stay @ Celica or Supra forum.


Anyways, back to the real topic. I don't see why not Toyota bring out new name, other than bring back old name (Supra, Celica, Corolla & etc). It'll be good new start for Toyota.

[DanZilla]

wow love the history lesson =)

[Matador]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Damn shame what they did to Pike's Peak.

Paved it over you mean?

Originally Posted by Jordo!

Thanks for sharing the info, Matador (CarbonGT???)

Also, the Celica is the parent car of the Supra. They eventually became separate platforms, but not originally.

Check out the attached pdf for more history on the Celica...

You are quite welcomed, and thanks for the pdf. Who is CarbonGT?

Originally Posted by Lincoln Stax

Umm, that's 4 years. '83, '84, '85, '86.

Those are a lot of great pictures. Love to see the Celica's racing history. I didn't seen any 2nd-gen Celicas, though. Were they raced?

3 Safari rallies during that period.

Originally Posted by #87

Are some people really so concerned with the name? Will the name genuinely affect your purchasing decision?

IMO it could be called Toyota POS and if it drives well I would still buy it.

I personally don't care what it's called.

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I'm sorry, I did read all 4 pages of essay, but did I missed something? Yes, I know Supra was first called Celica XX or Celica Supra. I think, all the Supra fan knows that. I said 2kGT is "Father" of Supra, not giving birth mother (should I put or ?). Supra had M (I6) series engine like 2kGT and they used it for 3 gen, while Celica used T & R (I4) series engine. To put totally different engine in same car was rare thing to be done in JDM company in that time of era (70's). IIRC Nissan 200sx had V6 in US (from mid 80's). Yeah, we see it in almost every car now days (Accord, Eclipse, & blah blah blah). I could go on and on, but this thread isn't about "If Supra is related to Celica". I guess these topic can stay @ Celica or Supra forum.


Anyways, back to the real topic. I don't see why not Toyota bring out new name, other than bring back old name (Supra, Celica, Corolla & etc). It'll be good new start for Toyota.

Toyota 2000GT was the parent of both the celica and supra actually. It had an A designation, as did the celica before it was changed to the T chassis when it was changed to FWD/AWD, The supra still carries the A designation.

The sport 800 (baby 2000gt), that incidentally had a boxer engine, used the P chassis which was inherited by the starlet and which the Yaris/Vitz carries today.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by Lincoln Stax

Those are a lot of great pictures. Love to see the Celica's racing history. I didn't seen any 2nd-gen Celicas, though. Were they raced?

The 40s? Along with a pic of the 20 was a 40, guess the link broke.....

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

Toyota 2000GT was the parent of both the celica and supra actually. It had an A designation, as did the celica before it was changed to the T chassis when it was changed to FWD/AWD, The supra still carries the A designation.

The sport 800 (baby 2000gt), that incidentally had a boxer engine, used the P chassis which was inherited by the starlet and which the Yaris/Vitz carries today.

WOW someone that actually knows what they're talkin about!! Much respect!!

[Jordo!]

Oh, sorry, Matador -- thought you might secretly be someone I know from newcelica.org

BTW, lots of comments here regarding the name issue. Not surprisingly, the popular concensus is: Toyota Celica.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/26/t...-pr/8#comments

However, someone over there makes a good point regarding a possible Supra: The Supra was originally designed to compete with the 300Z. A modern Supra should therefore compete with the 370Z.

This car could easily (relatively speaking) have a I6 crammed in it and a reinforced chassis and voila -- the new Supra could be spawned from the Celica, just like it was in days of yore.

[OldSkoolToys]

Actually I give.

I hope they call it a Celica.

I hope they call it a Celica ST.

And then the "high powered" version is just ST-S...just dont' get rid of the ST on any of the trim models.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Actually I give.

I hope they call it a Celica.

I hope they call it a Celica ST.

And then the "high powered" version is just ST-S...just dont' get rid of the ST on any of the trim models.

Would the name really affect whether or not you purchase the car?

[Siriusly.Andrew]

Pardon, Im not familiar with the ST trim? Further elaboration appreciated!