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There’s no longer a reason to “future” complain about the 2nd gens power because there’s an upgrade path at the dealership. If the GR86 isn’t enough, maybe the 2.0 Supra is, if that’s not enough, check out this 3.0 Supra. That wasn’t an option is 2013.
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Pretty sure he got all he could out of it. We did I think 8 iterations. He's your tuner as well btw...
For sure it is easier to get bigger gains with a header/tune in a '13 vs. '17. Factory '17 header has 45mm primaries, bigger than many aftermarket headers including mine. My '17 stock dynoed 179rwhp while my bud's stock '13 did 165 same day same dyno (we ran them one after the other). But either way, '13 with much bigger gains or '17 with smaller gains, neither is gonna be hitting 210rwhp with "header and a tune" |
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I can bring a couple of examples in that don't stray my point from the truth very far. Fully stock BRZ with ONLY E85 pulls off 14.35 @ nearly 99 mph https://www.delicioustuning.com/Stoc..._Breaks_200whp Header back BRZ with E85 pulls off 13.58 @ 100 mph on Hoosier tires. I know neither of these fit the bill for your particular case. But that is exactly the problem - no one is going out there to make that case and publishing it. You get whatever information you may find from random people that go out and give it a shot with random modifications, tunes, and tires. You will never get the consistent answer you are looking for. But I'll agree on one thing. I do hope gen2 is at least a LITTLE quicker than my gen1. But from the racing videos I have watched so far and the data that's out there, I am not so sure yet. Last edited by Dzmitry; 12-06-2021 at 08:36 AM. |
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As with the S2000, there's just not much to be gained with a header particularly vs. '17+ stock header. I would bet some headers *lose* power vs. stock '17+, same as with S2k. |
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Theres a video by the guys that do the Everyday Driver series and he had an FRS and did header and tune and then FI later. He said it was a bigger improvement from stock to header and tune than from header and tune to FI. Regardless of numbers which are all over the place, The header and tune really woke the car up |
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On the same tires (215/40-18 Pilot Sport 4), the new cars tested 7mph faster and 0.9s/1.0s quicker in the 1/4 vs. 2018 BRZ tS. https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-drive-review/ https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-gti-compared/ |
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