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Old 03-21-2014, 07:19 PM   #1065
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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
That is a very intriguing question. Even though the 10 Series has been out for a while, some not sold yet. Socks for people with limited access to special editions, like myself.

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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
That's actually how I found mine. I wasn't planning on buying a car until summer, but was browsing some local dealers online for S&G and found a monogram chillin on the lot and ended up walking out with it
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:47 PM   #1067
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Pretty sure Monogram production ends next month.
I don't think the monogram cars will go on sale then.

The reason the 10 series wen't on sale is because the monogram came with options the 10 series had and more.

You could say the TRD version may come with the monogram options, but that is unlikely. The monogram was geared more towards "luxury" and the trd is geared more towards "performance". Plus that would bring the MSRP on the base TRD (by base I mean no dealer or factory installed options) over $30,000. I don't see Scion coming out with a base msrp on any car over $30k.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:48 PM   #1068
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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
There are several sitting on dealer lots in the Bay Area.
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When you get your car from them take it out in the bright sunlight and inspect it very close...
So, would you guys recommend NOT picking up a new car if it is cloudy or raining? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm just so anxious to get my Monogram that I probably wouldn't care if it were in the middle of a thunderstorm!
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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
My dealer, a smallish suburban store, has two sitting unsold, one for over a month.
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Old 03-21-2014, 09:04 PM   #1071
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I don't think the monogram cars will go on sale then.

The reason the 10 series wen't on sale is because the monogram came with options the 10 series had and more.

You could say the TRD version may come with the monogram options, but that is unlikely. The monogram was geared more towards "luxury" and the trd is geared more towards "performance". Plus that would bring the MSRP on the base TRD (by base I mean no dealer or factory installed options) over $30,000. I don't see Scion coming out with a base msrp on any car over $30k.
Whenever a new model year dubuts, the remainders are discounted quickly as we see now with 10 Series.

And with new robots online improving production efficiency, 2015 pricing may actually decrease like we see with Monogram vs. 10 Series. Either way, there will be pressure on dealers to move out the 2014's ASAP and if that means abandoning pure pricing, it will (and already has) happened, special edition or not.

I don't think the TRD will have Monogram options either, but it'll likely be over $30K. Toyota CEO Jim Lentz said in an industry speech late last year that they're "studying" moving the Scion brand up market into the premium segment. Looks like we'll find out by June/July what that means.
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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
That will take a Toyota insider to say. The public industry daily/monthly/annual sales reports lump all models in a series together except for hybrids that are broken out separately.
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So, would you guys recommend NOT picking up a new car if it is cloudy or raining? I'm not being a smart ass, I'm just so anxious to get my Monogram that I probably wouldn't care if it were in the middle of a thunderstorm!
I personally wouldn't want to pick one up in the rain when I wouldn't even want to walk around and look at it let alone all the water hiding any defects or damage there may be. Kind of hard to go back later and say "I swear this dent was here when I picked it up".

I probably shouldn't even be commenting on this stuff. I am extremely picky when it comes to my car, a lot more than the average person.
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Wonder what the Monogram sales numbers are? Perhaps we might get some word when the March sales numbers come out. I have yet to hear of any just sitting on dealers lots.
The dealership my dad is from is within the San Francisco Bay Area and they have 3 sitting on the lot: Ultramarine 6AT, Argento 6MT, Raven 6MT.

They sold 2 already, a Whiteout 6MT & an Asphalt 6AT, which means they've allocated 5/2000 or 0.25% of the Monograms.

Compared to the 10 Series, where they only got 2 6MTs & 1 6AT, or 3/2500...0.12%

This definitely means that some dealerships might not even be seeing a monogram land on their lot since there are around 1000 Scion dealers.

...for the record they also have 9 base FR-S sitting on the lot.
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My dealer, a smallish suburban store, has two sitting unsold, one for over a month.
Are they both red by chance?
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Old 03-22-2014, 11:47 AM   #1076
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I personally wouldn't want to pick one up in the rain when I wouldn't even want to walk around and look at it let alone all the water hiding any defects or damage there may be. Kind of hard to go back later and say "I swear this dent was here when I picked it up".

I probably shouldn't even be commenting on this stuff. I am extremely picky when it comes to my car, a lot more than the average person.
Sounds just like me...So many people on here telling me to chill...

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Are they both red by chance?
Whiteout, not sure which trans.
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Whiteout, not sure which trans.
Probably auto trans
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