Best oil for the 86

[DandoX]

Originally Posted by humfrz

FYI from Wiki

"In 1955, Socony-Vacuum was renamed Socony Mobil Oil Company. In 1963, it changed its trade name from "Mobilgas" to simply "Mobil", introducing a new logo (created by New York graphic design firm Chermayeff & Geismar). To celebrate its 100th anniversary in 1966, "Socony" was dropped from the corporate name."

Now, answer me this ...... why a flying red horse .......??
humfrz

You sir have inspired my curiosity:
"The Vacuum Oil Company trademarked the Pegasus logo in 1911 and by the 1930s was marketing Pegasus Motor Spirits and Mobiloil."

http://aoghs.org/petroleum-art/high-flying-trademark/

Because it used to be Pegasus motor spirits and Mobiloil company.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by DandoX

You sir have inspired my curiosity:
"The Vacuum Oil Company trademarked the Pegasus logo in 1911 and by the 1930s was marketing Pegasus Motor Spirits and Mobiloil."

http://aoghs.org/petroleum-art/high-flying-trademark/

Because it used to be Pegasus motor spirits and Mobiloil company.

Good research ......

I liked this part:

"In Greek mythology, Pegasus – a winged horse – carried thunderbolts for Zeus."

How appropriate!


humfrz

[Teseo]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Good research ......

I liked this part:

"In Greek mythology, Pegasus – a winged horse – carried thunderbolts for Zeus."

How appropriate!


humfrz

We have different concept of pegasus

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Teseo

We have different concept of pegasus

Yep, I reckon it's a generational thing .......

I just had to look that up; yep, it's a slow evening in Puyallup.

"My" Pegasus and "your" Pegasus are sorta the same type of story ...... just different characters and different settings ......


humfrz

[NRXRaptor]

Kinda off topic. The maintenance schedule says to change the oil every 6000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. However, I don't drive my car anywhere near 6000 miles per 6 months. Would it be ok to wait 5000 miles or should I just follow the maintenance schedule? Many youtube videos with people showing how to change the oil say they wait 5000 miles on synthetic (ChrisFix for example) instead of waiting the 6 months.

[OzzyGT86]

Originally Posted by NRXRaptor

Kinda off topic. The maintenance schedule says to change the oil every 6000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. However, I don't drive my car anywhere near 6000 miles per 6 months. Would it be ok to wait 5000 miles or should I just follow the maintenance schedule? Many youtube videos with people showing how to change the oil say they wait 5000 miles on synthetic (ChrisFix for example) instead of waiting the 6 months.

It's really up to your discretion and driving style. If you feel the need to change the oil, then just go ahead and do so don't get caught up too hard on the technicalities. Most importantly just remember that it is based upon your driving style, regularly seen oil temps, whether the car is used for short distance drives as they put more of a strain on the oil because it's not up to operating temp and whether you are FI or NA.

[Mr.ac]

Originally Posted by NRXRaptor

Kinda off topic. The maintenance schedule says to change the oil every 6000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. However, I don't drive my car anywhere near 6000 miles per 6 months. Would it be ok to wait 5000 miles or should I just follow the maintenance schedule? Many youtube videos with people showing how to change the oil say they wait 5000 miles on synthetic (ChrisFix for example) instead of waiting the 6 months.

Dude. New to cars huh?

You don't really have to change your oil at any set marker. Those are just guidelines. It's up to you to determine if it's time to change your oil or not.

Since your afraid to drive a that much I would recommend two things.
Wait till you reach that magical 6000 miles or 5000 which ever dork you prefer to listen too.

Second sell car by a civic.

[JSube]

Originally Posted by NRXRaptor

Kinda off topic. The maintenance schedule says to change the oil every 6000 miles or 6 months, whichever comes first. However, I don't drive my car anywhere near 6000 miles per 6 months. Would it be ok to wait 5000 miles or should I just follow the maintenance schedule? Many youtube videos with people showing how to change the oil say they wait 5000 miles on synthetic (ChrisFix for example) instead of waiting the 6 months.

"Severe driving" has it's own maintenance schedule in manuals, but a lot of people don't know what that is. If you're a low miles per year, short trip driver, you're probably in the severe category. From our owner's manual-

[NRXRaptor]

Originally Posted by JSube

"Severe driving" has it's own maintenance schedule in manuals, but a lot of people don't know what that is. If you're a low miles per year, short trip driver, you're probably in the severe category. From our owner's manual-

So if after 6 months my oil doesn't look like crap then how can I tell if it is used up? Also, how is idling severe? Why exactly is city driving worse for wear than highway driving?

[JSube]

IMO everyone's oil is plenty used up after 6 mos. I think it's a false economy to save money on oil because the life of your engine depends on it, but I've driven only performance cars for the past 25 yrs.
As far as hwy vs. city goes, 2 reasons I can think of involve moisture. With short city trips you won't always get your oil hot enough to dissipate the moisture that collects in the system, and moisture in the oil is no bueno for the engine. Same for the exhaust. It takes 15 minutes or so to dry the exhaust interior which will keep rust out of the inside.
But for me, the big reason short drives are worse for the car is that they aren't as fun as longer drives. Cars like to have fun too, ya know.

[NRXRaptor]

Well then I'll just keep following the maintenance schedule. I'll invest in a catch pan and a torque wrench so I can do my own oil changes and tire rotations. I recently put new headlights on so I think I can do these things too. I'll probably get a craftsman wrench to take advantage of that lifetime warranty instead of something cheaper

[radroach]

@NRXRaptor torque wrench isn't really necessary to do your oil change. "Tight enough" is good enough for an oil drain plug. Make sure you stop by a dealership and pick up a bunch of crush washers though or you might leak.

[radroach]

I've been on bitog recently reading Blackstone VOA's and UOA's. Good stuff but I'm not always sure I can trust Blackstone's suggestions which often asks us 86's drivers to try 8000 mile oil changes.

I've been doing Castrol Edge 0w-20 oil changes for about 45,000 miles and its worked good for 5000 mile oil change intervals. Great oil when its fresh and the engine loves it. However I don't think the oil holds up past a 5000 mile OCI, noting what feels like piston scrape on startup on cold days, and also rough running conditions on used oil once i get about 4000-5000 miles, depending on driving habits. Also getting about a quart of oil consumption per OCI lately.

I might try Pennzoil UP on next oil change and see if consumption and oil stability long-term is better. From what I've seen on bitog they are very similar oils compared to Castrol, however bitogs VOA/UOA's might be somewhat outdated.

[Clipdat]

Interesting observations regarding Castrol Edge! Thanks for sharing.

Have you tried Eneos 0w-20 or AMSOil OE 0w-20 in your motor?

Originally Posted by radroach

I've been on bitog recently reading VOA's and UOA's. Good stuff but I'm not always sure I can trust Blackstone's analysis, which often asks us 86's drivers to try 8000 mile oil changes.

I've been doing Castrol Edge 0w-20 oil changes for about 45,000 miles and its worked good for 5000 mile oil change intervals. Great oil when its fresh and the engine loves it. However I don't think the oil holds up past a 5000 mile OCI, noting what feels like piston scrape on startup on cold days, and also rough running conditions on used oil, once i get about 4000-5000 miles, depending on driving habits. Also getting about a quart of oil consumption per OCI lately.

I might try Pennzoil UP on next oil change and see if consumption and oil stability long-term is better. From what I've seen on bitog they are very similar oils compared to Castrol, however bitogs VOA/UOA's might be somewhat outdated.