Fr-s or 370z?

[totopo]

Originally Posted by litemup

He didn't say it was faster in corners, just better.

The way he said it implied that the z is no good in the corners. The z is one of the fastest track cars for its price, and I hate how everyone thinks it can't handle.

[litemup]

Originally Posted by totopo

The way he said it implied that the z is no good in the corners. The z is one of the fastest track cars for its price, and I hate how everyone thinks it can't handle.

Just working on my mad trollin' skillz

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...61&postcount=4

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by jsimon7777

Ya lost me there. I didn't see you say In-N-Out.

In-N-Out would only work in the analogy if the car were sort of run-of-the-mill boring as advertised, but there were a bunch of more interesting models of the car that were secret, like if you could get the 275HP version with a factory turbo but it had a silly name and you had to know exactly how to ask for it or the salesman would pretend he had no idea what you were talking about.

[driftguy]

Holy shit this is still going on 3 pages after the Chris Harris video? What do people not understand?

[noobcake]

Originally Posted by totopo

The way he said it implied that the z is no good in the corners. The z is one of the fastest track cars for its price, and I hate how everyone thinks it can't handle.

the 370 is good at the track, i dont know why on this forum it gets slack for handling. When the Z came out i think one of the nissan guys called out the cayman as a benchmark..and it was. I really like to use this video as a reference, it shows the Z inch up each round and stay on the caymans ass. Not bad getting cayman performance for 1/2 price. They should add the twins next time since everyone keeps bringing up handling but it might hang around 6th place next to the s2k

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Psmn409nQ"]Porsche 911 vs Porsche Cayman vs Nissan 370z vs s2000 - YouTube[/ame]

[driftguy]

Per Wikipedia, just for the sake of this silly argument

370Z Awards and Recognition

JD Power and Associates Highest Ranked Compact Premium Sporty Car in Initial Quality 2009[34]
Kelley Blue Book's Best Resale Value Award (2010)[35]
Consumers Digest Automotive Best Buy Award[36]
Best of What’s New by Popular Science[37]

GT86/FRS Awards and Recognition

Car of the Year by Top Gear magazine (and Jeremy Clarkson) who also crowned it Coupe of the Year and winner of the Top Gear Speed Week (against competition including the McLaren MP4-12C, Porsche 911 Carrera S and Lotus Exige S);[78]
Best Driver's Car by Autocar;[79]
Performance Car by Auto Express.[80]
In Australia, the 86 was awarded the following titles in 2012:

Car of the Year award by Wheels magazine,[81] Carsguide[82] and Drive[83] (shared with Subaru BRZ);
Best Performance Car under A$60,000 and People's Choice again by Drive;[83]
People's Choice Best Performance Car under A$100,000 by Carsales (shared with Subaru BRZ).[84]
Other awards received include:

2012 Car of the Year in New Zealand (Toyota 86 & GT86);[85]
2012 Best Affordable Sports Car by US News (Scion FR-S);[86]
2012 Insurance Institute for Highway Safety Top Safety Pick in the USA (Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ);[87]
2013 Top Ten Best Cars by the American Car and Driver (Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ);[88]
2012-2013 Japan Car of the Year "Special Award" (Toyota 86 and Subaru BRZ).[78]
The Subaru BRZ was also crowned:

Fun-est Car of the Year by Top Gear Australia (against the Toyota 86, BMW M135i, Porsche 911 Carrera, Audi RS5, Ford Focus ST and Renault Megane RS265);[84]
2012 Sports Car of the Year by France's Echappement;[78]
2013 Best Sports Car by Canada's Auto123.[78]
In addition, the Toyota-Subaru D4-S boxer engine was named one of Ward's 10 Best Engines in 2013.[89]

[ET86]

I love my frs to death. However, as a daily the Z wins. My girlfriend drives the frs mostly, she commutes everyday 60-70 miles to and from work and school, so she has a better feel of the commuting daily driving aspect. She often complains about the the lack of power and torque, and her previous car was a Corolla. Yeah, the frs is great at turning heads, destroying corners; it's a drivers car not a DD. The frs just isn't that great when driving normal. Hope this help.

[litemup]

Originally Posted by noobcake

They should add the twins next time since everyone keeps bringing up handling but it might hang around 6th place next to the s2k

Yeah, but it'll be way better at being there.

[totopo]

Originally Posted by noobcake

the 370 is good at the track, i dont know why on this forum it gets slack for handling. When the Z came out i think one of the nissan guys called out the cayman as a benchmark..and it was. I really like to use this video as a reference, it shows the Z inch up each round and stay on the caymans ass. Not bad getting cayman performance for 1/2 price. They should add the twins next time since everyone keeps bringing up handling but it might hang around 6th place next to the s2k

nah, they won't add the twins because it would be sad. with its tsukuba time in the 11-12 second range, you wouldn't even see it behind the s2k after the 1st or 2nd lap.

[TJ3000]

OP you may also want to consider the S2000 which is easily comparable to the McDonalds Mc GangBang the simple Philosophy of taking both traits from both cars fast and nimble around the corners just like the 370 The Beef patties are like the high reving F20A with the power, what's the chicken? The awesome handling that comes with it derived from the FR-S


TL;DR You take the good you take the bad you take them both and there you have, The Mc GangBang (S2000)

[Cliu91]

Originally Posted by Josharooni

They actually are pretty close...

Maybe it's way different in Canada.
In Canada:
FRS/BRZ = $26k~
370z = $38~

Pretty big difference if you ask me... this is all based on the base model.

[dem00n]

Originally Posted by driftguy

Holy shit this is still going on 3 pages after the Chris Harris video? What do people not understand?

Chris Harris has been wrong many times and he even admits it himself. He doesn't have a conventional way at looking at a car, which is why his choices mostly don't fit the majority.

Don't worship him, he's just another guy with an opinion.

[campy]

Originally Posted by dem00n

Chris Harris has been wrong many times and he even admits it himself. He doesn't have a conventional way at looking at a car, which is why his choices mostly don't fit the majority.

Don't worship him, he's just another guy with an opinion.

But... but... he makes cool videos full of powerslides! And he has a British accent like the Top Gear guys! He must be correct about everything!

[PHLonomenal]

Originally Posted by campy

But... but... he makes cool videos full of powerslides! And he has a British accent like the Top Gear guys! He must be correct about everything!

I tell you, he's not wrong very often IMO. As much as I adore Top Gear, Chris Harris' opinion holds more weight. Exponentially more weight if I were buying something in the six figure price range. He knows his job well and enjoys it. We should all be so lucky.


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