Bullet/Sprintex/Innovate on the bullet website

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Calum

205/177 so they dynod a header?

Don't forget the e85

[JP]

The gains look to be pretty close to what bullet achieved with their pre-production kit and the figures they're advertising with the retail kit. They made identical gains at 6000rpm but cusco made a bit more down low, the lower gains could be due to the 100ron fuel in japan v's the 98ron bullet/mercury were tuning with.

Apply ~40% to your american base figures and you'll end up in the ballpark of what you can expect on Dyno's over there.

[industrial]

72% torque increase in the dip eh? That should be interesting to see.

[Huehuecoyotl]

here are 205hp and 177ftlbs charts

-Edit- while it says Flywheel, based on the right side chart baseline as pointed out a few posts down, I think its WHEEL-

while I like the early onset of near max TQ-thats cool!!!-, it does drop off rather more than I'd like after 5600 rapidly towards the 7400 (where I want warp speed). Dont see 7400+ as much value based on the direction of chart..

Below it is my Vortech map, for reference, higher final numbers but you can see the twin humps from each screw clearly, leaving sort of a TQ dip in one area while curing one in another- very interesting. It will have more seat of the pants as you start off each gear but as you wind out it will pull less versus mine, where I will have much less TQ down low, but more up high that takes me to redline.

I can see where each kit has its merit

I checked with OP for permission before posting before folks have a cow:happy0180:.

[JoeBoxer]

Oh no it says flywheel hp and torque, everybody is gonna freak out.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Oh no it says flywheel hp and torque, everybody is gonna freak out.

If thats the case, is that same as what we call CRANK? So this IF this is before drivetrain losses, so what is that 85% of 205=174.25WHP, and 85% of 177 is 150WTQ
someone check the math...

[swift996]

So the 210 rumor was true..about what I expected at this point. I'm sure the non-intercooled version makes close to the same. Perhaps with time and tuning they will find a way to get more power from the unit.

[JoeBoxer]

Flywheel = crank

PS does not equal HP though not sure how all that works.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Flywheel = crank

PS does not equal HP though not sure how all that works.

I checked the 205HP/177TQ crank math is right in terms of the conversions

[R2]

I wouldn't read too much into that "Fly Wheel" wording on top of the dyno chart. It's all relative to the baseline curve shown on the same chart. We know that one should be equivalent to 200hp at the crank at standard atmospheric conditions at sea level. Given that, I suspect we are seeing whp, regardless of what the dyno chart says.

Nonetheless I am happy to see the low rpm gains.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Originally Posted by R2

I wouldn't read too much into that "Fly Wheel" wording on top of the dyno chart. It's all relative to the baseline curve shown on the same chart. We know that one should be equivalent to 200hp at the crank at standard atmospheric conditions at sea level. Given that, I suspect we are seeing whp, regardless of what the dyno chart says.

Nonetheless I am happy to see the low rpm gains.

Ya know I think youre right..


Now that I look closely,

based on the red line for base HP, if its 159PS thats like 157HP I think, and if thats the case then yes, this is a WHEEL chart

Not bad ...

[Draco-REX]

205 crank hp? Think about this for a minute....

Stock, this car is 200 crank hp. There's no way adding .94L of air will only net 5hp.

[Pete]

I am an idiot sometimes, disregard this post plz.

[swift996]

That is at the wheels there is no point in debating it. I've seen plenty of dynos say flywheel when they show at the wheels.