New 240Z Confirmed for Nissan's 80th Anniversary! [Video]

[BRAWL]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

It makes more sense for Nissan to work with a platform they currenlty have than to create a new one from scrtach. Remember the exchange rates aren't very favorable for the Japanese and there's that little thing called the global recession...

What underpinnings would they use though? The 350/370z floorplan is probably where they would go to, but surely there must be something closer to the size of the 86 (which they would be mad not to compete with).

On an Aussie note, Holden should take note of the success of the 86 and get their new Torana in action

[QFry]

Originally Posted by Guff

YEAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!




The Revolution has begun.

would it be fair to say that the Hyundai Genesis Coupe started this revolution?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by QFry

would it be fair to say that the Hyundai Genesis Coupe started this revolution?

Why?

[einzlr]

Originally Posted by QFry

would it be fair to say that the Hyundai Genesis Coupe started this revolution?

BMW might claim that *they* started it with the 1-series ...although there was much disappointment and gnashing of teeth when it turned out that instead of being the car that took BMW back to its roots it's just a minimally smaller and lower-priced 3-series.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by LazyZed

What underpinnings would they use though? The 350/370z floorplan is probably where they would go to, but surely there must be something closer to the size of the 86 (which they would be mad not to compete with).

On an Aussie note, Holden should take note of the success of the 86 and get their new Torana in action

I doubt that Nissan could get their Front Midship platform as light as the FRS/BRZ platform. Especially since they already lightened it for the current 370 from the 350. IMHO they're in just two different categories.

[NYC BRZ]

It's interesting. I'm curious to see if they are going to position it against the BRZ/FRS or if they are going to just replace the 370.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by QFry

would it be fair to say that the Hyundai Genesis Coupe started this revolution?

I'll give a lot if credit to Hyundai.

The Genesis cars (both the sports coupe and luxury sedan) were really, really ballsy moves for them at the time.

Edit: for Nissan the success of the Twins is part, but I think they may have been stung when Mr K himself said the Twins are closer to the original Z ideal than the new Zs are.

[QFry]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Why?

Originally Posted by einzlr

BMW might claim that *they* started it with the 1-series ...although there was much disappointment and gnashing of teeth when it turned out that instead of being the car that took BMW back to its roots it's just a minimally smaller and lower-priced 3-series.

first cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder in a non roadster platform since what...'98? dont know about anyone else in this forum but i was excited 5 years ago when it was made official that the GC was coming out...i would even argue that if it would have been a complete failure in tyhe worlds markets then Toyota/Subaru may not have followed through with this platform... maybe im wrong

[Guff]

Originally Posted by QFry

would it be fair to say that the Hyundai Genesis Coupe started this revolution?

If the Genesis weighed 700 lbs less and provided a bit more snick-snickety feel, then perhaps.


But it doesn't, sooooooooo no.

[einzlr]

Originally Posted by Guff

If the Genesis weighed 700 lbs less and provided a bit more snick-snickety feel, then perhaps.


But it doesn't, sooooooooo no.

The Genesis did miss the mark, to much disappointment all around, but it still could be argued that it got car makers on the right track. It could also be argued that the success of present-day versions of beloved '60s muscle cars got car makers thinking they could have similar success bringing back other popular genres.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by QFry

first cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder in a non roadster platform since what...'98? dont know about anyone else in this forum but i was excited 5 years ago when it was made official that the GC was coming out...i would even argue that if it would have been a complete failure in tyhe worlds markets then Toyota/Subaru may not have followed through with this platform... maybe im wrong

Hm... correction in 3 things.

1. I wouldn't call +3,000lbs a "light". I call "light" is a car that's less than 2,800lbs. If that's the case, 3 series count in this.
2. since '98? No, think more. 3 series made cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder non roadster.
*316: '98~'05
*318: '98~'07
3. Lastly, you think Mx5 was only roadster, but outside of US, they made coupe since '98, so it'll add to the cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder nn roadster.

[QFry]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Hm... correction in 3 things.

1. I wouldn't call +3,000lbs a "light". I call "light" is a car that's less than 2,800lbs. If that's the case, 3 series count in this.
2. since '98? No, think more. 3 series made cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder non roadster.
*316: '98~'05
*318: '98~'07
3. Lastly, you think Mx5 was only roadster, but outside of US, they made coupe since '98, so it'll add to the cheap, light, RWD, 4 cylinder nn roadster.

i apologize for thinking locally in USA only...
1. 2008 Mustang-4000+, 2008 G35-3600+, Genesis Coupe-3100+ (IMO it is "light" compared to every other 2+2 available at the time it came out...in fact if the 86 hadnt come out it would still be the "lightest" 2+2 in the US at least
2. ...but over here the m42b18 were used from 92-96 and were replace by the m44b19 from 96-98. they never had the 4 cyl E46's in North America.
3....please provide proof of this cause my google-fu must suck really bad...

BTW i have no vested interest in this opinion...it is simply car conversation so i apologize for the

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by QFry

i apologize for thinking locally in USA only...
1. 2008 Mustang-4000+, 2008 G35-3600+, Genesis Coupe-3100+ (IMO it is "light" compared to every other 2+2 available at the time it came out...in fact if the 86 hadnt come out it would still be the "lightest" 2+2 in the US at least
2. ...but over here the m42b18 were used from 92-96 and were replace by the m44b19 from 96-98. they never had the 4 cyl E46's in North America.
3....please provide proof of this cause my google-fu must suck really bad...

BTW i have no vested interest in this opinion...it is simply car conversation so i apologize for the

1. '08 Mustang is 3,300~ 3,500lbs & not 4,000lbs. & here are other RWD that's near GC weight 2+2 cars.
330 = 3,300
Rx8 = 3,100
8C = 3,400

2. True, but fact still remain that BMW did make 4 cylinder 3 series

3. Here you go

[Dimman]

^ Holy shit, why didn't Mazda bring this here???

I didn't know this existed!

Looks like a modern Triumph GT6.