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Old 08-23-2012, 07:14 PM   #85
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This is kind of tough to be positive about even though you had "over 4 test cars". I can assure you my car has been feeling this weird "bogging". Don't take this personally because if you read my first post I specifically stated my positive opinion on the build quality of this intake. You asked for feedback and my personal feedback is that the car doesn't seem to run as properly on the airaid intake.
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First thing, no comments are taken personally. This is a forum to discuss FR-S /BRZ things and that is what we are doing

I would return it back to stock and see if the feeling goes away.

If you floor the car @ 1500-rpm's it's going to "Bog" however what you are feeling has to do with the drive by wire set up, not the intake system.

If the system caused a drivability issue, I think we would have seen something come up with all the testing we did and I am sure the beta testers would have brought that up as well.

If you can, go back to stock and see if it still persists and let us know.

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Old 08-23-2012, 07:16 PM   #86
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I want to be clear I don't have to floor it at 1500 to get it to do it. It's just the easiest way to recreate the issue. I usually get it in first gear taking off from a stop.
Tried to recreate in 1st the car just takes off on me...tried 2nd gear and the car has a maybe a 0.1sec delay and takes off..tried 3rd gear and it was about a 0.5 sec delay it didnt really take off but once it passed 2200rpm it just went which i expected.so no bogging really but i know what your talking about..my tc started doing the same thing when i switched from short ram to cold air. if i were to be in 1st and take off it would bog and the car would jerk like 2-3 times and then take off. I found out my maf sensor was not secured properly so i took it off secured it again and it never happened again. By the way i dont have airraid intake but i just wanted to see if my car did it since i do have a tune but no issues.
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:17 PM   #87
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Seriously. The car is really slow at 1500 rpms stock. So was my sti which had more than 2x the power. Unless he came from big v8s, I have no idea what 2forme is trying to accomplish by flooring it at 1500 rpms.
Exactly what I was thinking. Even most V8s will hesitate slightly in a situation like this.
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Seriously. The car is really slow at 1500 rpms stock. So was my sti which had more than 2x the power. Unless he came from big v8s, I have no idea what 2forme is trying to accomplish by flooring it at 1500 rpms.
maybe u didnt read his post properly...he said he does not have to drive the car at 1500 rpms to recreate the issue...hes just saying at low rpms the car bogs and it usually happens when hes in 1st gear taking off.
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Since I haven't hit on this yet, my opinion of the Airaid intake after about 70 miles or so.
  1. Smoother power
  2. Better sound
  3. Feels like slightly more power
  4. Car seems to rev quicker.
I did my normal brisk drive to and from work today so it was a good comparison. At idle and low RPMs you don't hear/feel much of a difference but up top she screams. It makes a great low growl when you roll on the throttle from lower RPMs. I have not unhooked the battery yet to allow the ECU to reset.

Like most modifications your opinion will be based on your seat of the pants observations unless you take the time to dyno it. My opinion is it works and offers what I wanted out of an intake on this car.

In the end it = money well spent.
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Is there any videos on this intake? I think my next upgrade might be an intake...just wanted to see what it sounds like...i know all intake usually sound the same in a way but still wanted to hear the sound.
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maybe u didnt read his post properly...he said he does not have to drive the car at 1500 rpms to recreate the issue...hes just saying at low rpms the car bogs and it usually happens when hes in 1st gear taking off.
And what I'm saying is this seems like something that happens in just about all cars that I know of. Take off slowly at low rpms from a stop then floor the pedal means the engine makes noises and you generally don't go anywhere for a sec. Maybe I missed it but did the stock BRZ launch fairly well from 1500 rpm? When I wanted to take off fast I had to launch from at least 3000 rpm.

I'm going to take my car out again and see if I can replicate this problem.
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maybe u didnt read his post properly...he said he does not have to drive the car at 1500 rpms to recreate the issue...hes just saying at low rpms the car bogs and it usually happens when hes in 1st gear taking off.
THANK YOU!!! I'm reading these posts like 'did no one read my post?'

No, I don't normally floor the car from 1500 rpm, and I do expect a 2 liter to bog that low. But I DO use first gear to take off from a stop. And that SHOULDN'T bog lol
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Is there any videos on this intake? I think my next upgrade might be an intake...just wanted to see what it sounds like...i know all intake usually sound the same in a way but still wanted to hear the sound.
Maybe this weekend I'll bring my Go Pro along for a ride. Not sure how well it will pick up the sound, I've never used it strictly with that purpose in mind.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:27 PM   #94
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Is anyone else worried about the wire for the MAF being awfully close to the belt?

To validate this post as being worthy in a feedback thread I will say this: I was just doing my install and I think the MAF wire is awfully close to the belt. There.
Mine does seem close, but nothing that causes alarm. There's a good 2 inches of space between the wire and the belt.

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1) AJUSA was great to deal with, reading through their pre-order thread is what leaned me toward purchasing preorder version as they seemed to answer questions quickly (well as quickly as you can with the vendor rules).

2) Install was pretty quick, I think there was a typo on one of the bolt sizes but I forgot to right it down (I was in a rush) and applying a little common sense makes it a non issue (i.e. grab another socket). No issues

3) again being in a hurry I didn't take out the sound tube or the air tube, I'll do these both later on if I remember.

4) Quality product, I'll comeback in after a week of driving and tell you if anything has changed

Instructions call for a 6mm socket to unbolt the stock intake, but it's actually 10mm.

Also, I'm AT and have no problems what so ever. BTW, I didn't disconnect the battery as the ECU learns continusouly so...

One last thing. That rubber tube on the right upper part of the plastic intake tube/body that goes on the "L" fitting. The rubber hose seems to touch/lay on the alternator (???). Should that hose be touching the metal body of the alternator? Won't it melt at some point? Just a bit concerned. So far, I'm loving the intake. As I've said before, the quality/craftmanship of the materials is really surprisingly good. You can really see they spent time during R&D. And the entire transaction with AJUSA has been top notch. Couldn't ask for anything more. :happy0180:
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THANK YOU!!! I'm reading these posts like 'did no one read my post?'

No, I don't normally floor the car from 1500 rpm, and I do expect a 2 liter to bog that low. But I DO use first gear to take off from a stop. And that SHOULDN'T bog lol
Yeah just came back from just trying to replicate this and no dice. Not calling you a liar. I rev up to around 1.5k-2k range to take off from a stop normally and never experienced anything odd. It kind of sucks that this won't work well with an off the shelf tune but that's to be expected imo, especially this early on. It'd be nice to know the exact cause though so it can get fixed. Really, a custom tune would be best anyway but hardly anyone knows what they are doing yet.

Anyway, here it is installed. It sure does look pretty with the stainless top.



Took the snorkle out, left the sound tube in and went with just a bare metal lid. No other mods. The intake sounds fantastic and the build quality is top notch. It feels more powerful but that could be the sound. I swear it's almost like I put an exhaust on the car, it's so much louder at WOT. I might just pass on an exhaust for a while until things are sorted out more. This intake is pretty much silent at cruise and idle, just like stock. Go WOT and you can definitely hear it. It really starts wailing at redline, pretty sweet.

Moving the MAF wiring attachment point worked great to get the harness out of the way of the pulleys. I found that installing the 3 screws that hold the intake to the box after completing the wiring helped with the install. My package was missing a few non essential little things, I called airraid and after 2-3 minutes and minimal hassle, parts are on the way. A+ there.


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Is there any videos on this intake? I think my next upgrade might be an intake...just wanted to see what it sounds like...i know all intake usually sound the same in a way but still wanted to hear the sound.
Hello brichard0625,

Here you go!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIf-aSfHqlA&list=UUMePlwRkOXpOavVLgxPOZFA&index=1&feat ure=plcp"]AIRAID Intake For Scion FR-S | Subaru BRZ Sound Clips - YouTube[/ame]



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Yeah just came back from just trying to replicate this and no dice. Not calling you a liar. I rev up to around 1.5k-2k range to take off from a stop normally and never experienced anything odd. It kind of sucks that this won't work well with an off the shelf tune but that's to be expected imo, especially this early on. It'd be nice to know the exact cause though so it can get fixed. Really, a custom tune would be best anyway but hardly anyone knows what they are doing yet.
No problem. I get a little bogging in between shifting when revving it out and shifting fast. It still pulls up top though.
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