FR-S vs. 370z, end all be all of discussions

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

And it still weighs in at 3232lbs while being about the same size as a FRS/BRZ. Its got more luxury so its expected but still... Here is hoping that the next Z comes close to 3000lbs while upping the performance. That is a 38k car I would pay for. Until then I am hoping that a solid reliable 250+hp FRS can be done through factory or aftermarket.

Hp is either expensive or heavy though. No real way around that

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Dark

A lot of arrogant people over there at 370z forum. SIGH! That's why I never get a Z even if I want to.

Your right a good community is important,but you must admit this forum has its characters as well,a few posts up a guy just said a GT500's suspension sucked a car that can pull 1.0g on the skidpad. On each forum theres gonna be arrogant people even more misinformed fanboys,just goes with the territory just gotta get a good mix of a car you like with a decent fanbase....

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Exhaust

Sounds like you bought a boat anchor with wheels if you ask me

Well i'll be enjoying my boat anchor with wheels Camaro SS 1LE very soon on the autocross,roadcourse,dragstrip,and the street, a guy like you i would love to bust up your FRS/BRZ in all 4....

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by fatoni

if you look at car and drivers vir lightning laps you will see that the z ran a 3:12 while the sc elise ran a 3:16 so it wasnt an analogy. okay i admit that there are a bunch of circumstances in which the elise is going to be faster than the z but my point is that gap is not proportional to the gap in sportiness. i know not every one has to agree but calling people with different opinions ridiculous is a little harsh. i feel like there are just too many examples of slower cars being sportier to say performance = sport

Ok...i agree with you damn....the Z caught my attention with that win very impressive indeed....

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by sbxjap

I was looking for a new car since last October, so I made a big list of cars all around similar price range.... Mustangs, Civics, GTIs, etc... I just knocked out things I liked and didn't...

My final list pretty much ended up being 370Z, BRZ, WRX/STi (depending on what I can get it for)... I've been wanting a Z and a STi forever, but I kept coming back to the pics of the BRZ...

In the end I think I made the right choice. I love my BRZ and some hate it. It's like how I love my Civic and so many hate it.

Pro's & Con's always around...

Very true and congrats....most definetly when it gets boosted i'll buy 1 and sleep next to it and caress it every night,until then i'll enjoy the new Camaro SS 1LE...its not flawless but it has my favorite powerplant and tranny under it and a great chassis even tho its heavy...enjoying what you buy is what its all about...

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by crazyyankeefan

Now that's just bias. If you think the 370Z looks ugly, then you're implying the FR-S/BRZ is ugly cuz the shape and lines for both cars look similar in a lot of angles except for the Z being a hatch.



Personally, I think 240Z and 370Z are by far the best looking Z's ever.



Yes, this debate can go on forever.......

Im a huge Z31 fan.....but for looks its handsdown the Z32 twinturbo...

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Symbiont

Get the BRZ, then.

COME TO THE DARK SIDE. WE HAVE HIDs.

It just needs more power for some,others are fine with its power levels....

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by shadoquad

This is what I advocate the most. Driving the cars and picking the one that fits you. This is a great time to be a car enthusiast. Even the compact hatches come out with performance variants these days. So there's a lot of great variety out there.

It surely is....its the golden age all over again 2000 to 2005 all over again.You can even throw in the Buick Regal GS,Verano Turbo,Caddy ATS 2.0T,and BMW 328,although 3 of them is more in line with price with the Z,Camaro SS,Mustang GT,but the Verano Turbo will be very fairly priced...

[crazyyankeefan]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

Im a huge Z31 fan.....but for looks its handsdown the Z32 twinturbo...

Really? you don't like the retro style look? Ford has gone back over time for the Mustang and brought it back to life while it was kinda dead in the 90's. A lot of new sports cars look slick and have great body lines, but it seems most of them lack some kinda character

[crazyyankeefan]

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

And it still weighs in at 3232lbs while being about the same size as a FRS/BRZ. Its got more luxury so its expected but still... Here is hoping that the next Z comes close to 3000lbs while upping the performance. That is a 38k car I would pay for. Until then I am hoping that a solid reliable 250+hp FRS can be done through factory or aftermarket.

You do realize the fact that "bigger engine = heavier", right? Even with the rest of the car in relatively same size and materials.

[jarviz]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

It just needs more power for some,others are fine with its power levels....

is it over 9000!? haha never mind i just had to say it

[Max Schnell]

Originally Posted by crazyyankeefan

You do realize the fact that "bigger engine = heavier", right? Even with the rest of the car in relatively same size and materials.

I am aware of that. The current Z is 3232 lbs or so at the same size as the BRZ. I am sure the engine is not 400lbs heavier, there are other factors.

If Nissan actually lighten it (say 3100lb range) for the next generation and bump output to 350hp then it would be a car I'd consider to buy for 38-40k range. For 35k range I'd buy a 250+hp STI BRZ if that was made and kept the weight down at around 2700lbs. It would be nice if both choices were available in the future.

[crazyyankeefan]

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

I am aware of that. The current Z is 3232 lbs or so at the same size as the BRZ. I am sure the engine is not 400lbs heavier, there are other factors.

If Nissan actually lighten it (say 3100lb range) for the next generation and bump output to 350hp then it would be a car I'd consider to buy for 38-40k range. For 35k range I'd buy a 250+hp STI BRZ if that was made and kept the weight down at around 2700lbs. It would be nice if both choices were available in the future.

Even with 250-hp of brz sti, you're still looking at worst power-to-weight ratio than 370z. Not to mention the 250-hp brz sti will no longer be only 2700 lb. The problem with a lot of people keeping bashing Z for its weight, but nobody ever realize it's the power-to-weight ratio that matters

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by crazyyankeefan

The problem with a lot of people keeping bashing Z for its weight, but nobody ever realize it's the power-to-weight ratio that matters

"Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere."
-Colin Chapman