2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[DantKR]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

I would not call any current BMW a sports car, have to go back to the Z3. But there are of course (as you well know) other criteria than weight and size or a Mazda 2 would be considered a sports car. FWD hot hatches don't quite qualify.

See, this is purely YOUR criteria. And what you THINK is a sports car.

[arsen89]

Wow where do you live? That's actually pretty good. If you end getting one, I hope you dont mind sharing your experience, because I also prefer the BRZ. There is only one Subaru dealer in my area.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by arsen89

Not trying to be an ass but Im glad teenagers can't afford it, you know how the insurance rates would sky rocket?

Totally agree. My insurance rates on a 13 year old Tiburon are notably higher than they would be on a brand new MX-5 precisely because the Tib was bought by a bunch of poor thrill-seekers who racked up the violations and accidents while the MX-5 is pricey enough to be bought largely by middle-aged men who rarely drive over the limit.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by tachi1247

I didn't think you were saying it want a sports car. I'm just saying all 911 models fall into the category of a pure sports car including the turbo model. there are several trim levels and some may be faster than others and lighter than others but in the context of this discussion they are all pure sports cars. the gtX series is the only one which may fall into the sub category of track car but definitely still a true sports car and not a gt or other sub set as discussed above .

[chate]

Originally Posted by arsen89

I'm a recent grad and I have some debt, but a car like this is not unrealistic. I guess it depends on the major. Not trying to be an ass but Im glad teenagers can't afford it, you know how the insurance rates would sky rocket? Personally, I think this is perfect. But to each their own I guess.

I'd say the opposite, most young folks who are paying themselves will cross shop this with the usual suspects and if its your own money and you dont track the car much, you'll go with something cheaper pocket the cash. I see MORE teens/highschool/ricer kids driving this at 25k because the parents will pay for it without much contemplation or comparison with other cars on the market.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by DantKR

See, this is purely YOUR criteria. And what you THINK is a sports car.

I'm certain any survey of car enthusiasts would largely be in agreement with my position on this.

[arsen89]

The area you live in has something to do with it, yes. However, that makes little differance when compared to the car you are driving. Insuring a sports car is expensive, specially and entry level one. Granted some places are less than other, but the price is still high.

[arsen89]

True, I do see that happening also. I know this car will suffer from ricing pretty badly, but hey we all know that. I guess its hopeless, either way I'm not worrying about that for a at least a year. I guess time will tell where the insurance rates end up. It will be high, but most sporty cars are anyways, just hope its not too unreasonably high.

[86'd]

Again, the FRS is priced right for (me) the enthusiast. We're paying a about the same as a GC coupe for the experience and the tangibles that people forget like shifter feel, relatively low wieght and driving position.

Not the power, or bragging rights. We just want to have fun.

And again, I think this price could only suggest that Scion isn't trying to appeal to the masses. I'd think that 80% of people (non-enthusiasts) would choose something else at this price point. And now thinking about it even if it was priced lower it probably still wouldn't compete in the mass market.

But for me, I've been waiting for a hardtop version of the S2000 and the FRS not only seems to fit the bill, but seems to be worth every penny.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by merlin2111

I hope this goes live soon. I don't see why it would take any more time than they have already had to open that aspect of it up.

Side note: In the thread about a forum member getting to drive the car, the big guy, he said that the red bolsters are not going to be making it into production. Has anyone heard of anything along these lines?

All I know is that this is true for Canadian production models -stated by Canada's Scion brand manager at the Canadian IAS.

[suprachica79]

Originally Posted by Rampage

Not a hater. Just being realistic. A lot of teenagers, college students and recent graduates with thousands in student loans had their hearts broken today. They won't forget because they cannot afford.

I already decided that I wouldn't be buying this car this year with my current financial situation but had the price come out at $22k, I would have had a much harder time sticking with that decision. The fact that it is $25k without any accesories helps me to be more responsible and wait a year or 2 for the used market and continue saving for a house or bigger payments on my mortgage-sized student loans. Thanks Scion...I think....

[TPO]

With good credit, you can do a 75 month loan.

[Dragonitti]

Some complaints about the price, but when I step back and look at the collective sum of all the parts we are potentially purchasing.....I think....No other car and manufacture combination out there presently, can produce a car of this specification. The Center of Gravity can't be matched by anyone else for the price of $24,930. They would have to start from scratch to produce such vehicle and thus the R&D would be way out of scope for such a car.

You can't get this package ANY WHERE else. And that package only cost me $24,930...Meh seems fair to me, to have a vehicle no other manufacture can even touch in terms of specs. All they can do is throw more hp into their cars to entice you to swing the other way. When I or the OEM throws more Hp into the FR-S/BRZ...then what? You will have a New World Order that's what...

[arsen89]

Wise decision! A house is def a better investment.