Questions and Discussion on Vortech Supercharging Systems

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

@448hpsti said the pipe sets are different for the different blowers. Not sure if that effects the charge pipe/BOV, but worth mentioning.

I said MY PIPES are different, remember one of my cars was a early build vortech prototype car

I'm not done testing the new blower, just put in last weekend.

The blowers mount the same, all pipes for you guys will be the same. Sorry if you misunderstood me or if I was not clear, my bad

The changes are very minor, but I have early non production pipes on one car, other car is what you all buy, and what I just got for wife's car

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

That's being done.

Exclusive testing here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sellout]

Originally Posted by Rick@Vortech

The H/D oil fed unit will still fall under CARB approval. The impeller side of the blower & supercharger pulley (the only parts of the blower CARB cares about) will be the same as a V-3 self lube. Only the oiling of the blower is changed.

Ahh, I misunderstood. (I was thinking S-Trim to T-trim, like an old Fox body) Didn't realize it was the same impeller.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

Exclusive testing here!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the high desert heat of Arizona in the harshest of conditions.

[pheoxs]

Originally Posted by Rick@Vortech

The H/D oil fed unit will still fall under CARB approval. The impeller side of the blower & supercharger pulley (the only parts of the blower CARB cares about) will be the same as a V-3 self lube. Only the oiling of the blower is changed.

Any idea what the max rpm if this setup would be? Would it raise it from 50k to say 55k? Or maybe more?

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[nelsmar]

Originally Posted by King Tut

In the high desert heat of Arizona in the harshest of conditions.

Trust me... you dont know the half of it. lol. Between me & gem in this area... I think we can rule out all possible climate differences & elevation differences within just a few days HAHA.

[Rick@Vortech]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

@448hpsti said the pipe sets are different for the different blowers. Not sure if that effects the charge pipe/BOV, but worth mentioning.

There was some slight tube variance in the 1st run of kits, but nothing a readjustment of silicone sleeves can't fix.

The new charge pipe/bov upgrade will swap over no problem.

Originally Posted by JordanInnovations

Rick that's awesome. Vortech coming through for all the guys wanting to push the limits, and it'll fall under their CARB approval for everyone that bought the CARB kit!

Can't do that with a turbo kit haha. Keep it up guys, and we'll keep getting them sold/installed.

-Jeff J

You guys rock!

Originally Posted by xjohnx

Will it TECHNICALLY fall under their CARB approval? or will it look close enough to slide under the radar? wouldn't CARB certification the modified blower require Vortech to submit the entire kit for approval again?

We already have that covered. The oil fed unit will fall under approval since they both do the same thing, just oiled differently. All we have to do is add it to our component list. We have done this in the past with no issue.

Originally Posted by djliquidsteele

So is this something that can be bought right out of the gate? I'm 2.5" catless with a muffler delete. Is this enough to hit my 400hp mark that I want without maxing things out..

Yes, oil fed systems can be purchased from the get-go. The blower should be able to support 475hp-500hp (flywheel hp), but the combination of supporting mods, pulley combinations, fuel, tuning, even your geographical location all becomes relevant.

Originally Posted by Adeets

Bump for price.

checking now!

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

That's being done right no, promise
I wasn't aware this was for sale already and release.

Yes, its been for sale for awhile now.

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

I said MY PIPES are different, remember one of my cars was a early build vortech prototype car

^this.

Originally Posted by Sellout

Ahh, I misunderstood. (I was thinking S-Trim to T-trim, like an old Fox body) Didn't realize it was the same impeller.

Yes, it's still the same impeller. However, if you feel the need to break into the 500hp range, we still have blowers to make that dream come true.

Originally Posted by pheoxs

Any idea what the max rpm if this setup would be? Would it raise it from 50k to say 55k? Or maybe more?

How does 60k rpm sound?

[skatery1989]

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

That's being done right no, promise
I wasn't aware this was for sale already and release.

So fill us in what size pulley are you running? what was the last dyno you had done? How much boost are you making with this new set up? Or is this all top secret Gem stuff?

[djliquidsteele]

So just to clarify, is this something that can added to the current blower? Or does it require a whole new blower to be oil fed?

[Sportsguy83]

@448hpsti good ninja edit. You had me looking for stuff to add to your discussion!!

I believe this from Ptuning might work....

[448hpsti]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

@448hpsti good ninja edit. You had me looking for stuff to add to your discussion!!

I believe this from Ptuning might work....

No David, I ran this by Vortech already and they looked at it, and said for me to use their setup as the bung sits lower on their design, it needs to be relative to the lowest point on the drain elbow on the bottom of the sc so...I think this feels sorta deja vu, did we do this before somewhere?

Originally Posted by skatery1989

So fill us in what size pulley are you running? what was the last dyno you had done? How much boost are you making with this new set up? Or is this all top secret Gem stuff?

skatery I'm not hiding anything, too fat to be a ninja, nothing top secret buddy

I have only had the new blower a week, and I have had very little seat time with it, sadly been chasing other installation/early adopter gremlins, nothing I wanna get too deep into, but loosely speaking, boost leak at high psi- I cant tell, but the logs say so...

I am more concerned with obtaining baselines and making it all run right before I ask my tuner for 'turning up' my tune, so dyno'ing is usually the last thing I do after many other "I got this new toy" stuff

I am still on the same 2.87" pulley I ran on the self lube kit, and still wanting to get a baseline of my temps at 10-10.5psi before I go higher, and likely if I do it will be with e85

there is plenty of air on tap, and I can and want to go higher, but all in time, grasshopper

Yes, I will redyno
If doing plugs is something that scares you, then the install is above your skill level.

[Dezoris]

Gem started all this, first and early adopter on the Vortech. Now he is working through the next evolution. But I have to ask for most you can make 300+ on the self oiled. The blower is the least of your worries at that level.

Cooling the motor, drivetrain stability are bigger issues before you even consider the blower upgrade for more power.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by 448hpsti

No David, I ran this by Vortech already and they looked at it, and said for me to use their setup as the bung sits lower on their design, it needs to be relative to the lowest point on the drain elbow on the bottom of the sc so...I think this feels sorta deja vu, did we do this before somewhere?

Just in case, I didnt mean to call you out or anything, was genuinely trying to help, thinking maybe it would help ease the installation

[civicdrivr]

Gem, are you still running the standard BPV?

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