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Old 07-03-2014, 12:04 AM   #855
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Man! the inside view looks crazy when the dirt smoke goes rushing in! ive spun twice at BW and i hate it! takes forever to clean the inside of the car!
Yeah, despite my vacuuming, if I shine a bright light at the headliner I can still see the Buttonwillow dust!
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So... only one person going to NCRC at the start of August? Nobody going to Laguna Seca at the end of July?
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:43 PM   #858
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So... only one person going to NCRC at the start of August? Nobody going to Laguna Seca at the end of July?
I think there are three of us so far for the 3 mile T-Hill (Aug 2/3) days, WoOosOn, BRZKitty (or was that a maybe?) and me (all talked about in the 86 cup thread).
As far as Laguna goes, those midweek ones can be hard to get time for. Also, I don't really want to spend a vacation day for Laguna :p
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Old 07-03-2014, 02:45 PM   #859
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Little light reading for those going to Laguna Seca

http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2012...Guide.html?m=1

I'll be at the 7/28 with NCRC in the open group if anyone cares :p

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I think there are three of us so far for the 3 mile T-Hill (Aug 2/3) days, WoOosOn, BRZKitty (or was that a maybe?) and me (all talked about in the 86 cup thread).
As far as Laguna goes, those midweek ones can be hard to get time for. Also, I don't really want to spend a vacation day for Laguna :p
yes im going both aug 2-3 n possibly draggin some more 86s
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Little light reading for those going to Laguna Seca

http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2012...Guide.html?m=1

I'll be at the 7/28 with NCRC in the open group if anyone cares :p
would love to go but im neither qualified nor skilled yet to go laguna. maybe in 3 months.
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My first track day was at Laguna Seca. And it's not a hard track, just a bit more technical than t hill.

I'm more than happy to give rides if anyone wants it.


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would love to go but im neither qualified nor skilled yet to go laguna. maybe in 3 months.
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Old 07-03-2014, 04:23 PM   #863
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would love to go but im neither qualified nor skilled yet to go laguna. maybe in 3 months.
You should sign up for a HOD session there (with solid in-car instruction I think it is fine for a beginner; my first four track days were all there). Overall I'd say MRLS is not as fun as the other three tracks in our area (because there is only one corner complex), though it is still good with several interesting car control pieces. In the end it does have more walls to be careful of so it is one that is really good to have an instructor for. MRLS is actually a pretty forgiving track IF you react correctly to mistakes, though some places are famous for eating cars when people respond incorrectly. For me at this point, I don't think I would take vacation days to go there (which is why I am not signing up for the NCRC date).

Sonoma on the other hand has places where a mistake will probably put you into a wall, though it has some crazy awesome features (the Carousel is awesome and it has really well done esses).

Buttonwillow you might be able to get away with doing on your own the first time (I did), but I would recommend going with one of the well regarded marquee clubs first. The main benefit of going with marquee clubs is that they have in-car instruction for newbies (at least PCA does). I'm not saying that Buttonwillow doesn't have places that can eat a car, it just doesn't have as many and they are not as hungry.
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Little light reading for those going to Laguna Seca

http://blog.axisofoversteer.com/2012...Guide.html?m=1

I'll be at the 7/28 with NCRC in the open group if anyone cares :p
why does it have to be on a monday?
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True. Laguna Seca is a bit boring if you're not chasing someone, but the fun factor is still there. It's a good intermediate track compared to t hill and sonoma - where you just need to hit your apexes. It's still a pretty forgiving track compared to Sonoma, where a mistake will really make you regret it. I really like Sonoma but too bad not many clubs has events there.
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Yah... Not a fan of week day track events. Two of my buddies are going so I took a day off for it.

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Old 07-03-2014, 05:26 PM   #867
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True. Laguna Seca is a bit boring if you're not chasing someone, but the fun factor is still there. It's a good intermediate track compared to t hill and sonoma - where you just need to hit your apexes. It's still a pretty forgiving track compared to Sonoma, where a mistake will really make you regret it. I really like Sonoma but too bad not many clubs has events there.
Yeah, it is really too bad that Sonoma has such high consequence areas; the features of the track are nearly sublime at the intermediate level.

That said I think T-Hill with the five mile has probably risen above Sonoma on technical terms, the new two mile section is truely fantastic; I just hope it isn't too much for beginners.
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I'll be there Saturday to run the 5 mile. Three people that I talked to - S2000, GTR, 997 GT3 Cup - all said the new part is super tight and very tricky. There are some blind turns and you reall have to set up your corners like Sonoma. The high power cars will struggle because some of the turns are so slow, they pretty much had to park it.

We'll see how I do. It'll be interesting.

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Yeah, it is really too bad that Sonoma has such high consequence areas; the features of the track are nearly sublime at the intermediate level.

That said I think T-Hill with the five mile has probably risen above Sonoma on technical terms, the new two mile section is truely fantastic; I just hope it isn't too much for beginners.
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