FRS in the Snow..

[Tcoat]

So this morning
foot of snow + 3 1/2 inches of clearance =

[Tgionet]

Originally Posted by stugray

Sorry but - DO NOT DRIVE ON THE STOCK PRIMACY HPs in the SNOW - EVER

I have lived my entire life in Colorado and have NEVER chenged my tires from summer to winter tires.
I have always used All-season tires (so 30 years snow experinece, NEVER with snow tires).

SO I thought it would be the same with this car.
I drove out of my neighborhood one day in the snow and about 1 degree above freezing.
I did brake checks and steering checks before pulling out onto a freeway.

Then SPUN the car completely into oncoming traffic on the freeway.
It was partially the fault of the TC/VSC system, but the zero grip from the tires was the initial cause.

Never again - The Primacy HPs turn into polished granite below about 35 degrees...

I now have Hankook Winters and I can drive circles around some 4WD cars out there.

Shit, Pilot Super Sports are better than the stock pieces of shit in light snow and the cold. I had the stocks out a couple of times last winter before my x-ice 3's came in and while it wasn't impossible there was never a time where I wasn't countersteering.

[Karnzklutch]

I've found its easier to drive the frs on winter tires with the tc/vsc all off rather than on. I've never had tc or any type of system in my older jdm awd and rwd cars, so I probably just grew some weird habits.

I rocked the oem michelin primacy tires for a day and decided never again. Bought some crappy non studded michelin x ice 2 and they are incredible compared to oem.

[PandaSPUR]

So I'm actually learning how to drive manual with my new BRZ on the weekends.

I dont commute with it, and its parked in my GF's driveway (since he lives in Brooklyn and has one while I do not).

I was planning on continuing my practice this weekend if the roads were dry. But if I'm reading things right, these tires aren't even safe when roads are dry if the temperature outside is low?

[Marx]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

So I'm actually learning how to drive manual with my new BRZ on the weekends.

I dont commute with it, and its parked in my GF's driveway (since he lives in Brooklyn and has one while I do not).

I was planning on continuing my practice this weekend if the roads were dry. But if I'm reading things right, these tires aren't even safe when roads are dry if the temperature outside is low?

No, they're definitely safe in the dry. They perform worse the colder it gets but as long as you're not trying to seriously push it you'll be completely fine.

[PandaSPUR]

Originally Posted by Marx

No, they're definitely safe in the dry. They perform worse the colder it gets but as long as you're not trying to seriously push it you'll be completely fine.

That's a relief then. This saturday has a high of 25 lol, but 0% precip.

[Jertronic]

17 degrees this morning and I have x-ice 3's in set of black steelies. When it gets this cold the dedicated snow tires really shine. The handling is better at this temp than the handling at say 40 degrees. Too squishy when it's "warm" out.

I don't use hub caps. I applied a synthetic paint sealant on all metal surfaces of the wheel inside and outside of wheel. Should help with preventing corrosion from the harsh road treatment chemicals aka calcium chloride.

It's fun to drive this car with a fresh coating of snow on the roads!


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[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by HunterGreene

I'll admit to not having done my research, but I believe sipping tires does decrease tread life since the tread tends to squirm a bit more under load.

Yeah I don't think the jury is out on that one. I've read both, but no actual data has been shown one way or another. To me it makes sense that it would increase thread life due to the cooling properties of sipping. Think of the grooves in terms of a heat sink.

Guess I'll have to sipe two tires and not sipe the other two and get some actual data on this

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So this morning
foot of snow + 3 1/2 inches of clearance =

T-Coat you find the best images of the weirdest vehicles

[AznBRZer]

Originally Posted by PandaSPUR

That's a relief then. This saturday has a high of 25 lol, but 0% precip.

The lowest I've taken it out on stocks was 33F and kept it within the speed limit while going easy on the pedal, but I was still nervous as hell on turns...haha.

Originally Posted by Jertronic

17 degrees this morning and I have x-ice 3's in set of black steelies. When it gets this cold the dedicated snow tires really shine. The handling is better at this temp than the handling at say 40 degrees. Too squishy when it's "warm" out.

I have the same setup and know exactly what you mean. Dry handling is so much better than when I was on Blizzaks.

[STV3]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

T-Coat you find the best images of the weirdest vehicles

ever see this one? lol

Its a Yaris BTW

[Bergen23]

Winter tires will most certainly make a night and day difference on ANY vehicle. From driving my FRS which has Michelin xice3's and going to my work truck (GMC sierra 1500) which has almost bald all seasons on, driving the truck is like having granite blocks for tires. They spin like crazy and get little to no traction. Definitely a wildly noticeable feeling

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by STV3

ever see this one? lol

Its a Yaris BTW

'Tis better to give than receive!

[Fang]

is this becoming the world's most ridiculous snow plow thread? Here's my contribution