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Old 09-16-2014, 04:04 PM   #71
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I think the R400 has so much power it'll reach silly speeds too easily. My Elise was the wrong side of that line with 240bhp in a 900kg car. But I'm just guessing because I've never driven a Caterham.
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I think the R400 has so much power it'll reach silly speeds too easily. My Elise was the wrong side of that line with 240bhp in a 900kg car. But I'm just guessing because I've never driven a Caterham.
It can get illegal really fast, but he takes it to lapping days and auto x regularly over here. Its also his daily driver from May-October.
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:50 PM   #73
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There's nothing to deal with, the superior car, drivers and team is winning.

Turner followed one of the oldest rules of motorsport: "If you want to win, employ a Finn."

EDIT: #94 received +25Kg's while Porsche received -10Kg, more splitter and can now employ dive planes.. fucking bullshit.
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It's simple just like I learned in IMSA Super Car years ago if you want to win you spend money with the sanctioning body they love that so you get to win until another team spends more money. Remember racers are just clowns in the parade. Cup team is TPC Racing
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Old 09-16-2014, 09:53 PM   #74
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It's simple just like I learned in IMSA Super Car years ago if you want to win you spend money with the sanctioning body they love that so you get to win until another team spends more money. Remember racers are just clowns in the parade. Cup team is TPC Racing
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Umm...no. See:

Mike Levitas is a great guy. I am always pulling for him when he's in the race.
He doesn't race in GTD so I really don't care. That being said the paddock is universally full of great guys from what I've seen at event and from what I hear from my friend who works in the paddock and pits every single race.

That being said, the #94 hasn't been winning because they spent money with IMSA, they are a small privateer team. They're winning because the Z4 GT3 is an exceptionally good car that's easy on it's tires and reasonable on fuel being backed up by a team that's incredibly seasoned with a consistent driver team.

It really says something about how good your team is when your car keeps winning races despite not setting the fastest in class laps. The Ferrari's and Porsche's have the Z4 in straight line speed but just can't quite hang in the corners. Meanwhile the Turner team nails it home with some of the fastest pit stops in pit lane (as fast as the proto teams).

The race at COTA is going to be very interesting because I suspect it'll be a new track for most of the field, it's going to really come down to which drivers learn the fastest. I expect markus is going to do great because he's been having to learn new track all year and he's still been competitive. This race is really going to show just how much better, if any, the gold/platinum drivers are vs. the silver "novice" rated drivers really are.

Or it'll end up like Sebring and be wreck filled carnage fest because moneyed idiots in prototypes don't have any damn common sense
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My IMSA comment is based on my experience when I developed and raced a 300zxTT in super car series in the early 90s not the current new IMSA so I can only ASS-U-ME that the weight penalties and restrictors are completely unbiased, not. Boy this thread sure got lost, anybody know what happened to the Stout Scion and why the aren't competitive?
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its fun to be fast, but doesn't need to be fast to be fun. Something doesn't sound grammatically correct, but you get the point.
This defines the FT86. People really need to appreciate it for what it is.

If you want a Cayman then get a Cayman. Nothing will ever make a FT86 handle like a Cayman; which isn't necessarily a.bad thing!
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This defines the FT86. People really need to appreciate it for what it is.

If you want a Cayman then get a Cayman. Nothing will ever make a FT86 handle like a Cayman; which isn't necessarily a.bad thing!
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its fun to be fast, but doesn't need to be fast to be fun. Something doesn't sound grammatically correct, but you get the point.
My 1994 Impreza POS is more fun to drive around town especially in shit weather...

My BRZ has turned into a total garage/auto x queen.
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It can get illegal really fast, but he takes it to lapping days and auto x regularly over here. Its also his daily driver from May-October.
And again you're off-road! This is why many seemingly great drivers cars fail for me.
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And again you're off-road! This is why many seemingly great drivers cars fail for me.
Its a great road car too though, he puts roughly 10-15000km a summer on the road with it too.
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Its a great road car too though, he puts roughly 10-15000km a summer on the road with it too.
But why have all that engine when the lighter Roadsport 125 would do?
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But why have all that engine when the lighter Roadsport 125 would do?
Why not? You can't even get a Roadsport 125 here, and you can't even assemble your own Caterham either here.
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