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EarlQHan · 04-26-2013, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OmarGC

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Corrected. Now... where are those logs ;]

Kamran · 04-26-2013, 10:53 PM

My season starts in a week, and hopefully I'll have a better feel for this car. In my previous track car, with 60 more Hp and 400 lbs more weight, instead of going wider, I kept the 225 profile, but I switched to better compound to minimize acceleration loss with the heavier tire (I had light weight flywheel/clutch too ). I went from basic street Z1 to Nitto Nt1, and handling/corner grip was night and day. I think this car with even less Hp would not be wise to carry a larger/wider tire, if you can have much better grip and heat capacity with lighter tire but better compounds.

That said, I'd love to see a comparison between 225 Nitto Nt1 vs G-Force R1's.
Also just out of morbid curiosity. The same tires but with 225 fronts and 235 rears just to see if wider is wiser at 200 crank Hp? Since I don't see any real reason to penalize the fronts with heavier tire.

robispec · 04-26-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OmarGC

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We are getting ready to test ourselves...

Hancha Group · 04-27-2013, 04:49 AM

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CSG Mike · 04-29-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hancha Group

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I'm feeling left out...

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Originally Posted by EarlQHan

Corrected. Now... where are those logs ;]

I went MIA for the weekend, but I had my laptop with me. I've been going through the archive of the "everything else" data looking for the "good" laps, and only made it about 1/3 of the way through (few thousand logs, although I can cut out most of the fluff based on log date).

It's coming!

acro · 04-29-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by acro

What about testing the TRD intake with an ecutek tune to compare with TRD intake without an ecutek tune. I would be very interested in seeing what numbers it will put up and if with a tune it will give better numbers than the other intakes around

Didn't see a response. Is this possible?

CSG Mike · 04-29-2013, 03:28 PM

@acro: strictly dyno numbers?

My current belief (and I may be wrong) is that ECU tunes on california 91 octane have zero power gains without cat deletes. I'm certainly open to evidence showing otherwise. E85 changes things a bit as well.

RYU · 04-29-2013, 04:47 PM

CA people, like us, are limited in ECU tuning power gains because we have some of the worse gas in the country. The US 86s are tuned for the lowest grade commonly available "premium" gas which is CA 91 Octane. You folks in other regions have better gas and therefore you can create a custom tune with ECUtek or (insert Engine Mgmt here) which will and have yielded more power all things being similar (I/H/E, etc..).

CSG Mike · 04-29-2013, 04:49 PM

Lets not forget the ethanol... :faint:

robispec · 04-29-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Lets not forget the ethanol... :faint:

I like my ethanol 85

CSG Mike · 04-29-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robispec

I like my ethanol 85

I hate my E10.

robispec · 04-29-2013, 05:37 PM

But we're both saving the planet arn't we?

RYU · 04-29-2013, 05:53 PM

Ethanol is nice but I haven't found it practical enough for me

Availability is far and few between. I envy you guys that have convenient access to the stuff!

ayau · 04-29-2013, 05:54 PM

Tein SRC vs Eibach R2.

NAO.

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Kamran Pepe Le Pew Wannabe Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: WA Posts: 147 Thanks: 10 Thanked 26 Times in 18 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My season starts in a week, and hopefully I'll have a better feel for this car. In my previous track car, with 60 more Hp and 400 lbs more weight, instead of going wider, I kept the 225 profile, but I switched to better compound to minimize acceleration loss with the heavier tire (I had light weight flywheel/clutch too ). I went from basic street Z1 to Nitto Nt1, and handling/corner grip was night and day. I think this car with even less Hp would not be wise to carry a larger/wider tire, if you can have much better grip and heat capacity with lighter tire but better compounds. That said, I'd love to see a comparison between 225 Nitto Nt1 vs G-Force R1's. Also just out of morbid curiosity. The same tires but with 225 fronts and 235 rears just to see if wider is wiser at 200 crank Hp? Since I don't see any real reason to penalize the fronts with heavier tire.

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CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,564 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,213 Times in 6,856 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	@acro: strictly dyno numbers? My current belief (and I may be wrong) is that ECU tunes on california 91 octane have zero power gains without cat deletes. I'm certainly open to evidence showing otherwise. E85 changes things a bit as well.

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RYU Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: really slow... Location: Los Angeles (SGV) Posts: 737 Thanks: 340 Thanked 253 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	CA people, like us, are limited in ECU tuning power gains because we have some of the worse gas in the country. The US 86s are tuned for the lowest grade commonly available "premium" gas which is CA 91 Octane. You folks in other regions have better gas and therefore you can create a custom tune with ECUtek or (insert Engine Mgmt here) which will and have yielded more power all things being similar (I/H/E, etc..).

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RYU Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: really slow... Location: Los Angeles (SGV) Posts: 737 Thanks: 340 Thanked 253 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ethanol is nice but I haven't found it practical enough for me Availability is far and few between. I envy you guys that have convenient access to the stuff!

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