Are you getting the FR-S or the BRZ and why?

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by 3scapist

Aren't the GT86 and FR-S pretty much the same damn car just with different badges? lol

You would think, but ever since Scion showed us an interior that did not match the GT86 version, this forum has been slammed with the same issue being posted over and over again.

In case you have been away, here is a summary of the last 1000 posts on the question of:
Will the FRS offer the same exact options as the GT86 and/or BRZ?

YES they will
NO they won't
I DON'T care
I DO care
YES they will
NO they won't
I DON'T care
I DO care
YES they will
NO they won't
I DON'T care
I DO care
YES they will
NO they won't
I DON'T care
I DO care
YES they will
NO they won't
I DON'T care
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....... To be continued.....

[tripjammer]

Scion said they will have more options available for the FRS than any other car...so yeah I will believe their word that they will offer the options that some of us want.

[zigzagz94]

I'm leaning toward BRZ because I'll be using the Subaru VIP program which usually brings the price down about $2500 from MSRP.

So Scion FRS $21.5k or Subaru BRZ $22.5k?

Is the nicer higher quality interior of the Subaru worth the extra $1k? To me, since I will be sitting in the car 99% of the time as opposed to looking at the exterior 1% of the time, it is.
To others who are focussing on making theirs a lightweight track monster probably not.

(however if Scion releases that blue modified bodykit with the STI type wing, i will seriously reconsider)

[Dark]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

I'm leaning toward BRZ because I'll be using the Subaru VIP program which usually brings the price down about $2500 from MSRP.

So Scion FRS $21.5k or Subaru BRZ $22.5k?

Is the nicer higher quality interior of the Subaru worth the extra $1k? To me, since I will be sitting in the car 99% of the time as opposed to looking at the exterior 1% of the time, it is.
To others who are focussing on making theirs a lightweight track monster probably not.

(however if Scion releases that blue modified bodykit with the STI type wing, i will seriously reconsider)

Tell us if BRZ is included in the program or not. I'm waiting to get it in the second year of production.

I think If they make STI, they will use one-piece solid bumper instead of tape on kit.

[Zaku]

I think it's also the age and demographics the two cars are aimed at, I noticed that our older forum members(agewise) who don't track as much and is looking for a casual club racer would choose the BRZ( notice that those people have very fine taste in cars as well they already owned higher quality cars. Lotus, Lexus, Higher end Toyota sports cars) They were already a teir up to begin with They're not the Celica owners or the TC. While our younger member who is just starting out or Track often (Corolla, Si,Celica, tc owners)is looking for the FRS. I also know that people will change their minds on a dime depending what information is released. And the younger of the two crowds is very easily swayed. I like it alot that someone mentioned that one big fact that you'll only be looking at the car's outside about 1% of the time, but you'll be inside it 99% of the time. That is something very true, and I think people forget about it. And honestly I feel like our older members has already either A owned a car that was much more spartan then the FRS, people who have owned old Rx7,Lotus,s2000. Can appreciate both sides because they know how nice it is to have that Extra or how nice it is to not have anything.

And I just like to point out that in the event that you finance the car, 24k and 22K aren't that different per month. If your bent out of shape by paying about 20$ more a month for the better equipped car, then I don't think this scene is for you. You'll spend alot more on parts then 20$ a month. You'll pay to fuel it at the track more then 20$ a month, and for those that say yes there's more options. Options cost money. I wonder how many people considered the fact that by the time they get the car they want it's 24k. or even dealer mark up of the BRZ.

Now it's just your exterior that's objective. To each his own.Premium or Limited etc. the cars wont cost exactly 24K so add that to your factor. You should up your expectation

Expect to pay or see BRZ premium at 26k sitting on the lot.
Expect to pay or see FRS close to 24K sitting on the lot.

Because dealers will add shit and you know it. Even SCION unless you know exactly what your doing and I can tell their's alot of new car buyers out here that wont. Becareful.

[Levi]

Toyota or Subaru?

Now I again do not know. From looks I prefere the Subaru, But from price point the Toyota. I want to strip the car down right after delivery. What use of the Subaru comfort features then?

[Sparkplug]

Subaru... looking for a fun to drive daily driver, plus I think it looks "cleaner" too.

[Snoopyalien24]

Am I the only one waiting for the BRZ different body kits? Such as the wing, and some lips? I really wanna see something like that...

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Am I the only one waiting for the BRZ different body kits? Such as the wing, and some lips? I really wanna see something like that...

Nope I'm waiting for it too sonething subtle and not way too out there. And clean. Maybe a functional spoiler? Lol

[Levi]

Me too. I hope Subaru will show some STI/SPT accessories at lunch, likely before.

[TylerLieberman]

Comes down to overall price. I like like the subaru more overall. Only thing I like on the scion more is the front fascia design. Other than that, im diggin the subaru. Seeing as how the subarus price will be somewhat negotiable, if I can get it for about the same as the frs, subbie for me but if the difference is still a few grand more after negotiating, probably the scion.

For me, I feel like the subaru is just a better representation of the car. First off, the motor is primarily their design as is a bunch of other mechanical bits on the car. While im not retracting away from toyotas efforts and awesome involvement with the car, I feel like, at heart, the car is really a subaru...but based upon its development history branching from classic toyotas it seems as though its soul is a toyota. I own 2 new scions as daily drivers right now. Theyre good cars but they FEEL so cheap. They feel expendable. I have a feeling the overall feel of being in the subaru will be a bit different.

Not hating scion cause theyre a great company. Obviously theyre the same car but there are differences between the two. Other people can agree, some cars from some manufactures have a special feel to them. One different from other cars though they may be similar. Seeing as how im parting with my built track/drift s14 that ive had for over 5 years as well as my daily tc, I just wanna buy what drives and FEELS like a sports car....not an economical coupe like my current scion.

That being said, unless the price gap is vast, ill be going with the subaru

[danmcd17]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Comes down to overall price. I like like the subaru more overall. Only thing I like on the scion more is the front fascia design. Other than that, im diggin the subaru. Seeing as how the subarus price will be somewhat negotiable, if I can get it for about the same as the frs, subbie for me but if the difference is still a few grand more after negotiating, probably the scion.

For me, I feel like the subaru is just a better representation of the car. First off, the motor is primarily their design as is a bunch of other mechanical bits on the car. While im not retracting away from toyotas efforts and awesome involvement with the car, I feel like, at heart, the car is really a subaru...but based upon its development history branching from classic toyotas it seems as though its soul is a toyota. I own 2 new scions as daily drivers right now. Theyre good cars but they FEEL so cheap. They feel expendable. I have a feeling the overall feel of being in the subaru will be a bit different.

Not hating scion cause theyre a great company. Obviously theyre the same car but there are differences between the two. Other people can agree, some cars from some manufactures have a special feel to them. One different from other cars though they may be similar. Seeing as how im parting with my built track/drift s14 that ive had for over 5 years as well as my daily tc, I just wanna buy what drives and FEELS like a sports car....not an economical coupe like my current scion.

That being said, unless the price gap is vast, ill be going with the subaru

Took the words right outa my mouth!! I don't want to get into my sick looking sports car and see all this cheap knobs taken from the TC!

Coming from a civic Si 06 the dash has got to look hot... Your inside the car driving so it's what you'll be seeing the most often!

BRZ in pearl white

[WolfpackS2k]

For me it depends a lot on price and how I can pick and choose options.

However I will say that I hate hate hate the Scion brand image. I'm not some teenager who's looking to be a stripped down crappy xA or xB. I want a quality well made and well engineered car and I want it's image.

I don't think more highly of Subaru over Toyota, but I sure do over Scion. I'd rather have a Kia or Hyundai badge on my car than that stupid "youth oriented" Scion badge.

[ryude]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

For me it depends a lot on price and how I can pick and choose options.

However I will say that I hate hate hate the Scion brand image. I'm not some teenager who's looking to be a stripped down crappy xA or xB. I want a quality well made and well engineered car and I want it's image.

I don't think more highly of Subaru over Toyota, but I sure do over Scion. I'd rather have a Kia or Hyundai badge on my car than that stupid "youth oriented" Scion badge.

What's wrong with Scion? I'm just trying to figure out what is wrong with their cars, the image is different. I've never heard of Scion cars being unreliable or having poor quality parts. It's still a Toyota, and the customer service Scion dealerships have are definitely top 3 in the country right now.