02-11-2022, 08:05 AM | #71 |
TRACKBREAD
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,929
Thanks: 2,660
Thanked 4,024 Times in 1,895 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Yoshoobaroo For This Useful Post: | Capt Spaulding (02-13-2022), NoHaveMSG (02-11-2022) |
02-11-2022, 09:06 AM | #72 |
Mebmer
Join Date: Nov 2021
Drives: Sienna, GR86, FL5
Location: PA
Posts: 624
Thanks: 395
Thanked 461 Times in 286 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I don't want to say that my main motivation in tuning my WRX was so it would finally be faster than our van, but it was definitely part of the equation. Of the three vehicles, the van is the only one I should be considering a BBK for :-|
Someone commented previously in this thread about AT being faster around town because it's easy. So true. If I accelerate from a stop light in the WRX fast enough to keep pace with the CUV/truck/minivan/bicyclist/2002 Pontiac Gran Am next to me I feel like I'm Vin Diesel slamming through all 14 gears |
02-11-2022, 10:00 AM | #74 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Drives: 2022 MT Neptune GR86 Prem.
Location: Cincinnati, OHIO
Posts: 492
Thanks: 143
Thanked 315 Times in 199 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
But that's the whole point. The third pedal is when I physically interact with the engine. It's exactly what makes my driving experience interactive and enjoyable. Heck, it's even fun when you miss a shift - and your like - "Sorry BRZ, that's on me."
Look, I don't have the luxury you do to own multiple cars (both cost and space, for now). If I did, it's possible I would be more willing to consider non MT cars. But until then, if it doesn't have a third pedal, it's not a consideration. |
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CincyJohn For This Useful Post: | PBR (02-11-2022), Yoshoobaroo (02-11-2022) |
02-11-2022, 10:11 AM | #75 |
TRACKBREAD
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,929
Thanks: 2,660
Thanked 4,024 Times in 1,895 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Exactly! I’d give up the shifter before giving up the clutch! When people say they don’t understand why you want to shift yourself, they don’t get the point. It’s not the selecting the gear manually that’s the most important, the most important bit is the granular control you have about power transfer to the wheels.
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Yoshoobaroo For This Useful Post: |
02-11-2022, 10:38 AM | #76 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Drives: 2022 MT Neptune GR86 Prem.
Location: Cincinnati, OHIO
Posts: 492
Thanks: 143
Thanked 315 Times in 199 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Last edited by CincyJohn; 02-11-2022 at 11:29 AM. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to CincyJohn For This Useful Post: | PBR (02-11-2022) |
02-11-2022, 11:43 AM | #77 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: 2023 BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,810
Thanks: 1,485
Thanked 1,252 Times in 677 Posts
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
I'd pay another $1,000 to have a PDK in this car versus the current manual gearbox. Maybe even $2,000.
__________________
Director of Rocky Mountain 86CUP
|
02-11-2022, 11:47 AM | #78 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,191
Thanks: 18,232
Thanked 16,358 Times in 7,398 Posts
Mentioned: 108 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Feel wise, an H pattern is bliss
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
|
|
02-11-2022, 11:52 AM | #79 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ
Location: Stonington, Connecticut
Posts: 3,305
Thanks: 1,523
Thanked 4,160 Times in 1,997 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to spcmafia For This Useful Post: | fredzy (02-11-2022) |
02-11-2022, 12:43 PM | #80 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Drives: 2016 Porsche Gt4
Location: Seattle
Posts: 69
Thanks: 0
Thanked 50 Times in 24 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
02-11-2022, 12:45 PM | #81 |
Barred
Join Date: Oct 2020
Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts
Location: Botany Bay
Posts: 1,149
Thanks: 744
Thanked 1,194 Times in 613 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Is PDK or DSG really quicker than a manual? Seeing I`m way off topic. I mean a full sequential with three pedals.
__________________
Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88
|
02-11-2022, 12:55 PM | #82 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: 2023 BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,810
Thanks: 1,485
Thanked 1,252 Times in 677 Posts
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Second, Porsche charges a premium of $3,210 for a PDK in a 718. That's really the way it should be framed. So no, it wouldn't be a $50,000 car.
__________________
Director of Rocky Mountain 86CUP
|
|
02-11-2022, 12:55 PM | #83 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,191
Thanks: 18,232
Thanked 16,358 Times in 7,398 Posts
Mentioned: 108 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Edit: 200ms as corrected by Dzmitry
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
Last edited by NoHaveMSG; 02-11-2022 at 02:03 PM. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post: | gen3v8 (02-11-2022) |
02-11-2022, 01:12 PM | #84 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Drives: 2016 Porsche Gt4
Location: Seattle
Posts: 69
Thanks: 0
Thanked 50 Times in 24 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
They charge 3200 to upgrade from the manual which is baked into the Msrp of the Pcar. I’m sure their actual cost to make is lower. The raw cost of the tranny to us peons is 20k. Anyhow yeah it would never happen regardless. Cheapest option would be a Dsg from Vw group.
|
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
How to get faster | Apelsin | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 39 | 11-10-2019 05:31 PM |
Keep car N/A or buy another faster track car | Sonolin | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 29 | 02-19-2014 04:13 PM |
Here's for those who want to go faster.. :( | slidethis | FR-S & 86 Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum | 2 | 01-08-2013 04:22 AM |
FRS faster than BRZ? Tell me why I should still get the BRZ. | Phaedrus29 | FR-S / BRZ vs.... | 63 | 04-27-2012 10:50 PM |