Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[Target70]

Originally Posted by robwbright

What is this "auto off" setting on the ESC? I must have missed something. I just use the switch on the meter to turn it off.

Originally Posted by raven1231

I'm assuming the fuse that turns it off when you turn the car off

Yep, it seems to be the terminology others are using so I just went along with the crowd. It is the relay that plugs into the fuse block and cuts system power when the key is turned off. I assume you purchased your system before this feature became standard.


just out of curiosity, what is everyone's dump voltage on cold startup? Mine has been dropping to about 28.3 overnight, before building up to about 28.7 on my ~5 mile/12 minute trip to work.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Target70

Yep, it seems to be the terminology others are using so I just went along with the crowd. It is the relay that plugs into the fuse block and cuts system power when the key is turned off. I assume you purchased your system before this feature became standard.


just out of curiosity, what is everyone's dump voltage on cold startup? Mine has been dropping to about 28.3 overnight, before building up to about 28.7 on my ~5 mile/12 minute trip to work.

I have a red wire with a fuse that plugs into the fuse box. Is that what you mean or something else?

My cold start voltage has been 27.9-28.1. I never see more than 28.5 or 28.6 even in summer.

BTW, I was just pulled over a mile from my house for doing 38 in a 25. Officer was nice enough and let me go with a warning even though I couldn't find my current insurance card (I had the one from the previous six months and had recently changed wallets). I assume that living nearby and having a completely clean driving record for the last 10 or so years probably contributed to his decision. Of course, if he'd have ticketed me, I'd have likely gotten it dismissed anyway - given that I'm an attorney in this county and I know the mayor, magistrate, prosecutor and judge personally. LOL.

Unfortunately, though, that means I'm now on the local LEA radar (pun intended).

[Sojhinn]

Originally Posted by Target70

Yep, it seems to be the terminology others are using so I just went along with the crowd. It is the relay that plugs into the fuse block and cuts system power when the key is turned off. I assume you purchased your system before this feature became standard.


just out of curiosity, what is everyone's dump voltage on cold startup? Mine has been dropping to about 28.3 overnight, before building up to about 28.7 on my ~5 mile/12 minute trip to work.

Mine drops every night. But when its cold I make sure to keep the system off manually before starting it.

Of course cold in San Diego is awesome.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

Of course cold in San Diego is awesome.

I'd love to visit out there again. Spent a week in January about 15 years ago. Good golly... it was 83 degrees and sunny every day.

[Target70]

Originally Posted by robwbright

I have a red wire with a fuse that plugs into the fuse box. Is that what you mean or something else?

My cold start voltage has been 27.9-28.1. I never see more than 28.5 or 28.6 even in summer.

BTW, I was just pulled over a mile from my house for doing 38 in a 25. Officer was nice enough and let me go with a warning even though I couldn't find my current insurance card (I had the one from the previous six months and had recently changed wallets). I assume that living nearby and having a completely clean driving record for the last 10 or so years probably contributed to his decision. Of course, if he'd have ticketed me, I'd have likely gotten it dismissed anyway - given that I'm an attorney in this county and I know the mayor, magistrate, prosecutor and judge personally. LOL.

Unfortunately, though, that means I'm now on the local LEA radar (pun intended).

yep, the red wire that plugs into the fuse box is what I was talking about. I never flip the switch off on the voltage display, I just let it turn itself on/off with the key. even in the cold

Also I don't know If I am happy for you that you avoided having your property stolen by legalized thugs, or mad at you for being part of a corrupt system that grants amnesty to one of it's own.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Target70

yep, the red wire that plugs into the fuse box is what I was talking about. I never flip the switch off on the voltage display, I just let it turn itself on/off with the key. even in the cold

Also I don't know If I am happy for you that you avoided having your property stolen by legalized thugs, or mad at you for being part of a corrupt system that grants amnesty to one of it's own.

My voltage display goes off when I turn the car off (push button). Are you saying that turning the switch off isn't actually doing anything?

As far as speeding, about anybody can get a 10 or less over speeding ticket reduced to a non-moving around here... 11-15 over reduced to under 10... 15-20 over reduced to under 15... all one has to do is ask the prosecutor. But there would still be a fine of $50-$100 because the city/county needs their revenue. That said, mine would likely have been dismissed outright. I didn't know that particular officer, or he probably wouldn't have messed with making me get out my license and all that...

I understand your amnesty complaint... but the fact is that officers, prosecutors and judges know that attorneys/judges/etc... are likely law abiding citizens in general. They don't know that about the general public. That's why those who work in the system are often given "amnesty".

And if you catch an LEA in an honest moment, they will admit two things:

1: Speeding and other traffic tickets are primarily about revenue, not safety; and

2: They really could not care less whether anyone is speeding (within reason) or if their tail light is out. However, people who run drugs often speed and often have tail lights out (how dumb is that to be committing serious crimes while breaking obvious traffic laws)... so they end up catching a lot of drug traffickers by merely pulling over random cars speeding with their tail light burned out.

[Winjr]

Originally Posted by Target70

just out of curiosity, what is everyone's dump voltage on cold startup? Mine has been dropping to about 28.3 overnight, before building up to about 28.7 on my ~5 mile/12 minute trip to work.

Mine has been 28.4, then levels off at 28.8, sometimes 28.9.

[Gary in NJ]

Originally Posted by robwbright

My voltage display goes off when I turn the car off (push button). Are you saying that turning the switch off isn't actually doing anything?

When you turn off the car, the system is off. There will not be any parasitic loss.

If left in the "armed" condition, as soon as you hit the button to start, the ESC controller calls for charge voltage from the starter battery. The current draw, even though just for a second, depletes current that is available for starting. When it gets cold out it is a good practice to turn off the system via the arm switch prior to engaging the start button.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ

When you turn off the car, the system is off. There will not be any parasitic loss.

If left in the "armed" condition, as soon as you hit the button to start, the ESC controller calls for charge voltage from the starter battery. The current draw, even though just for a second, depletes current that is available for starting. When it gets cold out it is a good practice to turn off the system via the arm switch prior to engaging the start button.

Ok... that's more or less what I was thinking - even if I didn't understan it. LOL.

[raven1231]

Not trying to start anything but lawyers, police ect... aren't necessarily anymore likely than everyday citizens to be corrupt.... I'm not bashing either, and in fact respect both. I have my masters in Criminal Justice and I'm starting Law School in August. I just think generalizing people into groups based on profession isn't right. With that said however, if I were in your situation, would I want to be let off? of course lol

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Not trying to start anything but lawyers, police ect... aren't necessarily anymore likely than everyday citizens to be corrupt.... I'm not bashing either, and in fact respect both. I have my masters in Criminal Justice and I'm starting Law School in August. I just think generalizing people into groups based on profession isn't right. With that said however, if I were in your situation, would I want to be let off? of course lol

Well corruption, sure. But the sort of corruption I see in the system around here is more about Judges who refuse to follow the law regarding pleas and sentencing or Prosecutors who are more interested in convictions than justice. We did have a couple local judges and three attorneys who got in trouble for committing a number of ethics violations.

But wrong or right, none of that constituted criminal offenses. You do occasionally see a lawyer or judge get in criminal trouble, but it doesn't seem to be very often. Whether that's because they're being covered for or because they aren't getting caught or aren't committing crimes is up for debate. That said, the system and everyone in it pretty much assumes that they aren't.

[Sojhinn]

So everyone should turn off their batteries manually tonight. I.e.- turn off the switch

[Target70]

Originally Posted by raven1231

Not trying to start anything but lawyers, police ect... aren't necessarily anymore likely than everyday citizens to be corrupt.... I'm not bashing either, and in fact respect both. I have my masters in Criminal Justice and I'm starting Law School in August. I just think generalizing people into groups based on profession isn't right. With that said however, if I were in your situation, would I want to be let off? of course lol

*edit. never mind. This isn't the place for my rantings. I'll just shorten it to this: If a guy walks up to me and tries to take my phone/camera from me I have every right to defend myself. If that person happens to be an officer, my rights to self defense are now violations of the law. It's the system that puts us in groups. With two different rule books for two different classes of people.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by Target70

*edit. never mind. This isn't the place for my rantings. I'll just shorten it to this: If a guy walks up to me and tries to take my phone/camera from me I have every right to defend myself. If that person happens to be an officer, my rights to self defense are now violations of the law. It's the system that puts us in groups. With two different rule books for two different classes of people.

Hey you're not going to get any argument from me about that. I'm a hard core libertarian/constitutionalist. I think we ought to dismantle about 90% of the federal government and decriminalize all "victimless" crimes (i.e. drug sales between consenting adults, etc...).

That said, my initial point remains true. In their private lives, most members of the court system are generally law abiding citizens - and by that I mean they're not usually committing murder, rape, burglary, etc... No one in the system really cares about traffic violations other than as a means for revenue generation. Given that fact, the members of the system don't normally make the other members pay those extra taxes.

Legalized theft and brutality are separate matters. There are plenty of honest, upstanding police officers (who are often misguided by badly written/conceived laws). And there are some that are violent, plant evidence, etc... I remain very concerned that our police forces have become militarized and I regularly post accounts of police misconduct on my facebook page. That also terminates my discussion of the issue.