FR-S Rod knock

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

It's common practice with Subaru to replace short blocks when there is an issue. Since there is no cylinder head damage reported, there is no need to replace them as well. All the technician has to do is ensure that the mating surfaces are clean, that the gasket seats properly, that the head bolts/studs are torqued down properly and that the timing is set. They probably have a dedicated technician or two to do engine work; that type of thing doesn't just go to the rookie hourly tech.

We've seen how well dealerships can replace the timing covers and cam gears with this car already...

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

We've seen how well dealerships can replace the timing covers and cam gears with this car already...

True. Dealer service is pretty appalling across the board. Makes it tough for the average consumers, above and beyond the price of dealer service.

[Turbowned]

Come to Mass; we'll take care of you? Dunno what to tell ya.

[BlaineWasHere]

This is why you never tell the dealer what you were doing when the problem occors. Just describe the symptoms of the problem. If you don't give them a backstory they won't go searching so a solution based on that.

If they ask when it started just say "not sure."

[andrew20195]

Originally Posted by Skurj

Long block basically comes assembled almost drop in. Short block means the dealer has to transfer parts from the old and leaves more room for mistakes to happen or just plain old crap gettin in where it shouldn't.

Subaru (and I imagine Toyota with the twins) doesn't offer long blocks. Subaru doesn't even offer assembled heads, for that matter. I do understand where you're coming from now, though.

[FirestormFRS]

Originally Posted by andrew20195

Subaru (and I imagine Toyota with the twins) doesn't offer long blocks. Subaru doesn't even offer assembled heads, for that matter. I do understand where you're coming from now, though.

Don't know about the twins but I know Toyota offers long blocks. I've made more than a few over the years

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Come to Mass; we'll take care of you? Dunno what to tell ya.

I lived in Mass. for two years. Nice buncha guys.


But I recall hearing my then-Mazda dealer's Service Manager tell me that the reason I wouldn't have my car back for a few months was because they were "waiting for parts from Japan." Japan, huh? For a main seal? Japan? Right.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

This is why you never tell the dealer what you were doing when the problem occors. Just describe the symptoms of the problem. If you don't give them a backstory they won't go searching so a solution based on that.

If they ask when it started just say "not sure."

Did you hear that story on NPR yesterday about Congress mandating that all vehicles have data recording devices, so that accidents can be investigated by law enforcement (and insurance companies). Many cars already have these devices on board, but consumers are not told that their data is being collected. And this data is different from a history of error codes.

[Captain Insano]

Originally Posted by Skurj

Long block basically comes assembled almost drop in. Short block means the dealer has to transfer parts from the old and leaves more room for mistakes to happen or just plain old crap gettin in where it shouldn't.

Yes, really three choices here

• long block
• short block
• tear apart existing short block and replace only rod bearing or whatever is damaged, and reassemble original damaged internals and short block

First bullet - this is super overkill. I wouldn't do that if I was a dealership and I consider myself a pretty fair guy.

Second bullet - while you do need to take off heads and bolt on ancillaries... It is relatively straight forward even for a dealership.

Comparing third bullet to second bullet. Second bullet Is much, much, much safer/easier to do than compared to the third bullet!!!

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Did you hear that story on NPR yesterday about Congress mandating that all vehicles have data recording devices, so that accidents can be investigated by law enforcement (and insurance companies). Many cars already have these devices on board, but consumers are not told that their data is being collected. And this data is different from a history of error codes.

Yeah, every FR-S/BRZ has one. I'm not sure what that has to do with I was saying though. I've known about it for years.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Marrk

Did you hear that story on NPR yesterday about Congress mandating that all vehicles have data recording devices, so that accidents can be investigated by law enforcement (and insurance companies). Many cars already have these devices on board, but consumers are not told that their data is being collected. And this data is different from a history of error codes.

I believe somewhere in the manual it mentions that this information is to be used only by the repair shop for diagnostic purposes.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

Yeah, every FR-S/BRZ has one. I'm not sure what that has to do with I was saying though. I've known about it for years.

I would like to know were the F it is so i can promptly remove it. Having any form of data recording device in a vehicle i purchase should 100% be disclosed to me before i purchase the vehicle.

So, there was mention of the piston hitting one of the direct injectors.... i don't see how that could happen unless the bearing was completely gone.. even then... isnt the injector in the roof of the combustion chamber between the intake valves.... that sounds sketch to me and I would personally be very worried about metal debris in the oil system... ad if the piston was hitting the injector the piston needs to be replaced as well, not just a rod bearing...

OP, i wish you the best of luck man.

[andrew20195]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

I would like to know were the F it is so i can promptly remove it. Having any form of data recording device in a vehicle i purchase should 100% be disclosed to me before i purchase the vehicle.

It's in the SRS control unit. Of course, if you remove it, you will no longer have functioning airbags...

Furthermore, the data stored in that unit is YOUR property. The only way the dealership or manufacturer can legally access it is if you give them permission, or law enforcement has a warrant, or a court subpoenas the information.

[RAWR BRZ]

Originally Posted by pozer

Yes All the holes are on the inside of the engine bay... I also removed the resonator so the large hole on the right side of the box is open but this would still mean I would need to fill the engine bay with water and it would also stop the lower part of the stock air box from sucking up any water in since it can't complete a vacuum.
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BTW I completely agree had I hydro locked the engine they should not cover it but this is not the case..

You'd want to get a cover for that hole from removing the resonator, air sucked into there isn't filtered by the air filter and you may have dust and stuff sucked in.