New TRD parts for 86 / FR-S

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a $80 windshield shade.... It better be carbon tubes and ti coated kevlar fabric!

[ZC6BRZ]

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

Yes and no. The carbon fiber bits could come from either side of the family. Subaru has been using it for generations now from their aerospace division and continues to make offerings that interest us. The first bar I remember is the version 2 STi Impreza.

What intrigues me is where the current offerings are produced? Are they coming straight from Toyota or Subaru? Does the joint venture continue through accessories?

Not joint venture for the accessories. STI has their own (different) strut tie bar, battery holder (which also matches the STI Bar) amongst other things. None of the TRD parts or STI parts are rebranded from the other manufacturer, even though they totally could be.

[SubieNate]

Originally Posted by ZC6BRZ

Not joint venture for the accessories. STI has their own (different) strut tie bar, battery holder (which also matches the STI Bar) amongst other things. None of the TRD parts or STI parts are rebranded from the other manufacturer, even though they totally could be.

Toyota could still be producing their strut bar to their design in the same factory that Subaru is producing their strut bar to their design.

Not exactly a "joint venture" but still.

Nathan

[fenixv8]

Originally Posted by tjoy

I see an LSD on the page. What advantages would you expect over the stock diff?

Search mechanical 2-way differential over 1-way and 1.5 way.

I Don't want to give you improper technically explanation so it's probably better if you look it up. I just know it feels a lot better on the track and is easier to control the car.

[ST185RC]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

Really? hmmm id have though it be a good idea. seeing as how mint condition classic cars over 30+ years old that are rare special editions are appraised pretty high regardless of inflation and cost of energy.

the 1969 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 was sold for $7269 putting it at $43,972 with inflation today, but its current market value for a pristine mint condition is $425,000.

thinking of the speedhunters feature with mint condition 1985 ae86 sprinter GT-Apex, priced around 14-16k USD, inflation today puts it around 27-30k today. But sold in todays market i was told around 40k.

Id have figured that a rare 2013 GT86 TRD (full options) model sold for 50k, and then placed on the market in 40 years still prestine would be appraised pretty high. I mean what we are getting are not exactly corollas and Camry, and civics which have very little collectors value because they are not rare and not sports cars

Well, since we're bringing in numbers, let's do a bit of quick calculations with the best possible case scenario with all assumptions that favour you.

Let's assume that the bottom line price is 50,000 and you had that money now to blow on it without a single penny into interest.

Let's also assume that the heated garage is hermmetically sealed for a very modest 100 bucks per month. which works out to 36000 over 30 years. Seems reasonable to me, no need to wash the car or any other dollars spent on maintaining the car.

Let's assume then that inflation rates remain at a very conservative 1.7% over the course of a 30 year period compounded annually. 0 Variability on the case 86000 dollars already invested and you don't have to worry about it for the next 30 years.

Works out to just over 142K just to break even 30 years down the road for the present value.

Not to say that this car isn't special, it is and it's not like it's a POS corolla or anything but I stand by my case that a fully optioned TRD model wouldn't be a good investment (it's more so a gamble) even under the most ideal and reasonable conditions. Even some very clean examples of 20 year old NSX (an all out sports car, highly sought after) aren't worth as much as the dollar amount when brand new.

From my experience, Japanese massly produced cars never amount to much collectible dollar value. Otherwise homologation rally celicas and fully optioned supras would be worth a New 458 Ferrari today. But even the most pristine examples of supras and Alltrac/GT-Four, Rare 185 RC and 205 WRC are worth less than a new civic.

With all due respect to the classic Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes, the beginning and end values of a car does not take into account the means and expenses of giving the car its value today.

[Beyer Subaru]

Hmmmm, I'm not gonna take your word just yet. I know about the STi strut bar and battery tie down (they actually don't "match". The strut bar is gray and the tie down is pink). I own them both as well as many other TRD, STi, SAA, Toyota and Subaru parts.

I've already received "Toyota" parts in Toyota boxes that were made by Subaru.

So how do you know for certain that there won't be any rebadging or team work involved in the accessories?

Originally Posted by ZC6BRZ

Not joint venture for the accessories. STI has their own (different) strut tie bar, battery holder (which also matches the STI Bar) amongst other things. None of the TRD parts or STI parts are rebranded from the other manufacturer, even though they totally could be.

[Mac1235]

Where did you guys see the prices in USD? Maybe I am missing it but I do not see it.

[ST185RC]

Originally Posted by Mac1235

Where did you guys see the prices in USD? Maybe I am missing it but I do not see it.

I think it's just simply convered based on exchange rate.

On another note; TRD Seats, do want.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Oh god rubber bushings out the ass YES

[MeatForBrains]

Nice parts, but WAY too expensive. 88 JPY=1 USD

For instance the first item on the list. The carbon fiber garnishes = 48000JPY, thats $544. Insane.

edit: My mistake, that for ONE garnish.

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by MeatForBrains

Nice parts, but WAY too expensive. 88 JPY=1 USD

For instance the first item on the list. The carbon fiber garnishes = 48000JPY, thats $544. Insane.

edit: My mistake, that for ONE garnish.

I think its for both, but either way, totally overpriced no matter how you slice it.

[ZC6BRZ]

Originally Posted by Beyer Subaru

Hmmmm, I'm not gonna take your word just yet. I know about the STi strut bar and battery tie down (they actually don't "match". The strut bar is gray and the tie down is pink). I own them both as well as many other TRD, STi, SAA, Toyota and Subaru parts.

I've already received "Toyota" parts in Toyota boxes that were made by Subaru.

So how do you know for certain that there won't be any rebadging or team work involved in the accessories?

There might be rebadging in the future, but up to this point, they have yet to do that. Can you think of any examples of rebranded/joint?

[WingsofWar]

Originally Posted by ST185RC

Well, since we're bringing in numbers, let's do a bit of quick calculations with the best possible case scenario with all assumptions that favour you.

Let's assume that the bottom line price is 50,000 and you had that money now to blow on it without a single penny into interest.

Let's also assume that the heated garage is hermmetically sealed for a very modest 100 bucks per month. which works out to 36000 over 30 years. Seems reasonable to me, no need to wash the car or any other dollars spent on maintaining the car.

Let's assume then that inflation rates remain at a very conservative 1.7% over the course of a 30 year period compounded annually. 0 Variability on the case 86000 dollars already invested and you don't have to worry about it for the next 30 years.

Works out to just over 142K just to break even 30 years down the road for the present value.

Not to say that this car isn't special, it is and it's not like it's a POS corolla or anything but I stand by my case that a fully optioned TRD model wouldn't be a good investment (it's more so a gamble) even under the most ideal and reasonable conditions. Even some very clean examples of 20 year old NSX (an all out sports car, highly sought after) aren't worth as much as the dollar amount when brand new.

From my experience, Japanese massly produced cars never amount to much collectible dollar value. Otherwise homologation rally celicas and fully optioned supras would be worth a New 458 Ferrari today. But even the most pristine examples of supras and Alltrac/GT-Four, Rare 185 RC and 205 WRC are worth less than a new civic.

With all due respect to the classic Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes, the beginning and end values of a car does not take into account the means and expenses of giving the car its value today.

wow never thought of it that way! thanks, i figured i could have skimped on the payment on the heated garage, my uncle's best friend owns a family business...its a storage facility that houses classic cars and said i could cram 1 car as long as its worth it, I figure i could just pay and forget it. hoping the return goes to my daughter or her children.

[Beyer Subaru]

Originally Posted by ZC6BRZ

There might be rebadging in the future, but up to this point, they have yet to do that.

But my question is - How do you know? Do you have all of the STi and TRD accessories? Are you an employee of STi/TRD?

I could just about guarantee that the "new" TRD Lateral Link Set is the STi part rebadged as well as all of the bushing kits.

These aren't really questions that I wanted you to answer so much as to have people start thinking/looking at the accessories that they are receiving.

Edit: Did you happen to notice what was stamped on your Knee Pad Sets?