To Greddy Turbo Owners (or SBD/Zage Turbo).... Melted Radiator Fans? General Opinion?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by SteveIsBored

its too bad front mount turbos aren't holding up on the track. Hopefully there will be solutions to this in the future

I wouldn't say that; we figured out how to address it.

[themajesticone]

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

I have no comment on Zage/Greddy and their dealings...or lack of dealings...

Personally, I didn't care day #1 and I still don't care.

All I care about is SBD and it's customers.

How we interact with Zage is between Zage and SBD.

What Zage does, doesn't do.....is between Zage and that other company.

If Greddy has an issue, it's best they take it up directly with Zage.

I'm not getting in the middle of it, as it's not my place.

If you want to buy a Zage turbo kit, we're the USA distributor and I'll be happy to accommodate that purchase.

I don't have time to deal in drama and hear-say. I'd rather just stick with the facts of what I know, which is Zage has been phenomenal to work with and produces a high quality kit at an incredible value.

The independent owner reviews back this claim, with over 1200 posts in the official turbo kit thread.

I understand - I appreciate the response and I apologize for the harsh/blunt assumptions I made and claimed. Honestly, you have been very transparent AND receptive and definitely do not shy away from any criticisms or concerns/questions, which is very nice because the "other" said company doesn't seem to do that at all, many companies do not do that at all so thank you. Its not that I want to write off this kit I am just timid with turbo kits in general. What do you think would convince me to get a SBD kit over a JRSC kit for example? SBD's kit price is fantastic for starters.... and obviously I would need an oil cooler with any FI kit regardless.

[SteveIsBored]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I wouldn't say that; we figured out how to address it.

More money?

[spdbydesign]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Well, Greddy did discontinue their kit, and currently, street prices on the Greddy kit are awfully close to the SBD kit.



More power, more heat, more cooling problems when driven hard.

The inefficiencies of the smaller Greddy turbo reduces power output relative to a 18G/20G, but that also reduces heat output.

Of course, if you detune the SBD kit to provide Greddy level output, then you'd get marginally less oil heat, but the exhaust piping temperature wouldn't change much. And, you would get a later spool...

More power, more heat.

Mike, the Zage kit is $2999 w/ FREE OFT E-tune and Blow-Off Valve.

What is the current street price on Greddy? How much is their BOV upgrade? What is the typical tune cost associated with their kit?

99% of our users are running the OFT @ 7.5 PSI Wastegate Pressure. (NO Boost Controller Added.)

I only know of a handful of even running Ecutek, as OFT has become the dominant player with their free custom tune for the kit.

For this reason, I don't foresee any heat issues in the engine bay....especially with our larger turbocharger which isn't being remotely taxed at 8 psi or less boost.

[spdbydesign]

Originally Posted by themajesticone

What do you think would convince me to get a SBD kit over a JRSC kit for example? SBD's kit price is fantastic for starters.... and obviously I would need an oil cooler with any FI kit regardless.

I'd strongly recommend an oil cooler, especially come summer time. I 100% agree with you there.

In regards to the other kits on the market, there's LOTS of solid options.

Our biggest advantage is our competitive kit pricing, comprehensive kit (zero extra items needed to complete it) and free tune through Vishnu OFT.

If you have have ZERO intention of building your motor and are simply looking for another 100-125whp on 91/93 octane......the SBD kit is a no-brainer at its price point.

If you're wanting to build the motor and shoot for 400+ whp, this isn't the kit for you.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by SteveIsBored

More money?

That is always a problem

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

For this reason, I don't foresee any heat issues in the engine bay....especially with our larger turbocharger which isn't being remotely taxed at 8 psi or less boost.

You, like many others, are not comprehending the problem at hand.

How hard the turbo is being pushed, is not the source of the heat problems mentioned in the OP. It is the layout of the turbo kit itself, the proximity of hot components to plastics, that is the issue.

If you look at the location of the melting, you'll notice it's right along where the exhaust piping out of the turbo is located.

If you can provide a SBD equipped car for driving in California, I can duplicate the results with the SBD kit. I guarantee it.

[spdbydesign]

There's about a dozen of them in California, post up in our Facebook group.

With our kit at 7.5 base boost on pump gas, I feel confident you won't have this issue.

[themajesticone]

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

I'd strongly recommend an oil cooler, especially come summer time. I 100% agree with you there.

In regards to the other kits on the market, there's LOTS of solid options.

Our biggest advantage is our competitive kit pricing, comprehensive kit (zero extra items needed to complete it) and free tune through Vishnu OFT.

If you have have ZERO intention of building your motor and are simply looking for another 100-125whp on 91/93 octane......the SBD kit is a no-brainer at its price point.

If you're wanting to build the motor and shoot for 400+ whp, this isn't the kit for you.

Indeed - at this time and place I have ZERO intention of building my motor.

Regarding installation - you have to remove the stock crash beam and either choose to not have one or replace it with the Drift Armor Bar?

Is there anything else I should be aware of regarding installation? If I can change my own oil, install my own exhaust and parts, read English, am I competent enough to install this kit by myself in my garage? Do you suggest any oil coolers?

[SteveIsBored]

Originally Posted by themajesticone

Indeed - at this time and place I have ZERO intention of building my motor.

Regarding installation - you have to remove the stock crash beam and either choose to not have one or replace it with the Drift Armor Bar?

Is there anything else I should be aware of regarding installation? If I can change my own oil, install my own exhaust and parts, read English, am I competent enough to install this kit by myself in my garage? Do you suggest any oil coolers?

It's not a bad install at all I did it on jack stands in my garage just set aside some time. Find a local tig welder for the bov flange. Buy a scraper to clean the block and right stuff gasket maker to install pre tapped oil pan. 1/4 in vacuum hose and 3/8 X 1/4 x 3/8 vacuum tee to run the bov. I also bought heat wrap for headers down pipe etc. also get heat tape for maf harness and O2 sensor harness

[themajesticone]

Originally Posted by SteveIsBored

It's not a bad install at all I did it on jack stands in my garage just set aside some time. Find a local tig welder for the bov flange. Buy a scraper to clean the block and right stuff gasket maker to install pre tapped oil pan. 1/4 in vacuum hose and 3/8 X 1/4 x 3/8 vacuum tee to run the bov. I also bought heat wrap for headers down pipe etc. also get heat tape for maf harness and O2 sensor harness

Do people have an air pressure device to make sure there is any lost or unseen metal shards or whatever? Good practice?

[SteveIsBored]

Not quite sure what u are asking? If ur talking tig welding the bov any competent welder will clean up the hole with a file. I brought mine to a performance fabricator that does a lot subby work

[midnight23]

Originally Posted by spdbydesign

There's about a dozen of them in California, post up in our Facebook group.

With our kit at 7.5 base boost on pump gas, I feel confident you won't have this issue.

are you going to reimburse their melted fans?

[spdbydesign]

100%

If the kit is properly installed, they won't see this issue on the OFT tune.

Lots of our customers track their cars, and not one has reported this issue.