Beefed up 86 spied @ Nürburgring

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

It is possible that this is a Toyota test car, but it is also possible that this is just a Toyota "For funsies" test car.

It is 100% sure it is a Toyota test car. Whether it will ever come out, time will tell. But again, as pointed out in the original article, it tends to corroborate Tada-san's hints about a faster version.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

This thread, while entertaining, is just that; Entertaining.

Many vehicles get tested and never see the light of day.

It is possible that this is a Toyota test car, but it is also possible that this is just a Toyota "For funsies" test car.

Same plates

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

No it's not, smartass. My speculation is based on what the pictures show: a Toyota-owned test mule running higher-spec components during a manufacturer test session. How do you not understand that? At this point your... reasoning is beyond me.

I'm just trying to say all this peculation is pointless. Plus you could have a better car with aftermarket tuning for less money so this potential version of the car is irrelevant already.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Same plates

good find

[gramicci101]

It's entirely possible that Gazoo, since they're owned and operated by Toyota, just wanted to get some 'Ring time to test their stuff.

It doesn't seem likely that Toyota would engineer a larger NA FA boxer engine from scratch though, especially when the FA20 is holding up so well to forced induction and that both Subaru and Toyota have a long history of factory forced induction. And the news that Toyota is teaming up with BMW for a high hp I-6. A larger and more powerful FA would encroach on the I-6's territory.

Although Subaru does need to phase out the EJ25 in the STi. Maybe they're working on an FA25 turbo for the new STi.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

It's entirely possible that Gazoo, since they're owned and operated by Toyota, just wanted to get some 'Ring time to test their stuff.

It doesn't seem likely that Toyota would engineer a larger NA FA boxer engine from scratch though, especially when the FA20 is holding up so well to forced induction and that both Subaru and Toyota have a long history of factory forced induction.

Although Subaru does need to phase out the EJ25 in the STi. Maybe they're working on an FA25 turbo for the new STi.

Exactly, when they were testing the Power plant and drive train for the twins, the test car definitely wasn't a twin.

[MokSpeed]

Originally Posted by Guillaume

You don't have to care, @strat61caster, that's entirely up to you. Feel absolutely free not to read (let alone comment) about something that you're not interested in.

Although I think at least some people might care around here..

Car forums: Where people read about things they don't care about to give their opinion that nobody asked for!

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

Exactly, when they were testing the Power plant and drive train for the twins, the test car definitely wasn't a twin.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at a turbo FA25 BRZ though. Maybe with slightly wider hips in the back and some real meat on the tires. Say, 350-400 hp.

[tahdizzle]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

I wouldn't turn my nose up at a turbo FA25 BRZ though. Maybe with slightly wider hips in the back and some real meat on the tires. Say, 350-400 hp.

I doubt any of us would.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by tahdizzle

I doubt any of us would.

That's the one thing that's really bugged me about the STi. In the time that it's been out, the WRX has gone from 227 hp to 268 hp, with associated suspension and drivetrain upgrades, just to stay competitive with its peers. At the same time, the STi has gone from 300 hp to... 305. Fucking woo. It should be 350+ by now. The price has sure as hell gone up though. There's really no point to getting an STi over a WRX other than DCCD and different wheels.

[Guillaume]

Well then... let's see what Dale Lomas, the authority on all things Nürburgring in the English speaking world, has to say about this...

http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.ph...ed-on-the-ring

Sometimes I spot a cool car on the 'Ring, but I don't have any clue what it is, why it's here, or anything... and this carbon-clad Toyota GT86 is just one of these moments.
But here's some of my own observations:

• The red DAU plates are consistent with other Toyota/Lexus prototypes testing at the 'Ring, such as the Lexus LFA. That and the fact that I took these shots in a private 'industry pool' session makes this a 'works' car.
• Mis-matched wheels scream motorsports, but it's probably just testing different tyres.
• Cabin has no rollcage, but harnesses and rather cool bucket seats. This means cool roadcar, not refugee race car sneaking a test in i-pool.
• The bonnet (hood), roof and bootlid (trunk) are all real carbon-fibre, at least that's my best guess judging by the light and the shut lines. They're not 'wraps'.
• The wing is awesome and reminiscent of the Gazoo racing SP3 GT86.
• The brakes are also heavily upgraded in a way that might be considered overkill for a 200hp road car.
• The race-car exhaust note and high-rpm suggest it's more like a 220hp special. Sadly no turbo or supercharger sound effects.
• It's RHD... and it has Rays Engineering wheels (I think). These two things point to a Gazoo Racing, JDM-only special edition.

That's my 2¢...

[ICantAffordAnLFA]

Love BTG; just ordered my 'over 10' sticker, lol

Sorry, in which pic is the oil cooler visible?

CE28s without silly wide rubber; wonder where they got that idea from

[virobloc]

It seems so incredible to deny such piece of news :O
I hope it gets released worldwide..

[Guillaume]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

Love BTG; just ordered my 'over 10' sticker, lol

Sorry, in which pic is the oil cooler visible?

CE28s without silly wide rubber; wonder where they got that idea from

Check this one out in full def.

Originally Posted by virobloc

It seems so incredible to deny such piece of news :O
I hope it gets released worldwide..

Right.