The dumbest thing people have said about your gt86/frs/brz. - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

supramkivtt2jz · 08-20-2013, 02:49 PM

last night a guy in his xB parked next to me and yelled "NICE SCION MAN! ILL BET IF ITS AS GOOD AS THIS, THE FRZ IS AN AWESOME CAR TOO." Yea, he compared a crap japan-mainland econobox to my FR-S, called it good, and called my vehicle an "FRZ"

Eurasianman · 08-20-2013, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supramkivtt2jz

last night a guy in his xB parked next to me and yelled "NICE SCION MAN! ILL BET IF ITS AS GOOD AS THIS, THE FRZ IS AN AWESOME CAR TOO." Yea, he compared a crap japan-mainland econobox to my FR-S, called it good, and called my vehicle an "FRZ"

Got to love the people in this area

DarkSunrise · 08-20-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad1723

Technically, he was right. There seems to be a difference between what some media outlets say and what the official numbers are. A lot of reviews, including Top Gear if my memory serves me right, stated 197hp. The real number is probably one of these, but 200 is what is officially used, as it sounds better for Toyota/Subaru.

197 is bhp.

strat61caster · 08-20-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drew_dice27

I try to avoid talking to people as much as possible
Random Guy - Nice car
Me - Thanks (starts packing groceries)
Guy - That's that Subaru FRS?
Me - BRZ
Guy - It's got 197 HP right?
Me - Actually 200
Guy - No, I read up on it, it's 197
Me - Uhmm yeah no, 200. Have a nice day (I proceeded to get in my car and drive off while he was still trying to talk)
Mind you he was one of those know it all people. Wasn't going to try and stick around

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad1723

Technically, he was right. There seems to be a difference between what some media outlets say and what the official numbers are. A lot of reviews, including Top Gear if my memory serves me right, stated 197hp. The real number is probably one of these, but 200 is what is officially used, as it sounds better for Toyota/Subaru.

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

197 is bhp.

Different tune in Europe produces 197 hp.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_86"]Toyota 86 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Quote:

that results in 200 horsepower (149 kW; 203 PS) at 7,000 rpm

Backup source:
http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/specs/

U.K. Toyota website
http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...-specification

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=147+kW+to+hp

Edit: tl;dr if your only source of car info is Top Gear, you'll think it has 197 hp because that's what the GT86 sold in Europe is tuned for. I'm not sure about Japan but I don't care that much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

197 is bhp.

No.
http://www.differencebetween.net/tec...en-hp-and-bhp/
For this discussion we're using the term interchangeably.

Mad1723 · 08-20-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Different tune in Europe produces 197 hp.

Toyota 86 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Backup source:
http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S/specs/

U.K. Toyota website
http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyo...-specification

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=147+kW+to+hp

Edit: tl;dr if your only source of car info is Top Gear, you'll think it has 197 hp because that's what the GT86 sold in Europe is tuned for. I'm not sure about Japan but I don't care that much.

No.
http://www.differencebetween.net/tec...en-hp-and-bhp/
For this discussion we're using the term interchangeably.

Thanks for the clarification! Very complete and clear

ghoti · 08-20-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by supramkivtt2jz

last night a guy in his xB parked next to me and yelled "NICE SCION MAN! ILL BET IF ITS AS GOOD AS THIS, THE FRZ IS AN AWESOME CAR TOO." Yea, he compared a crap japan-mainland econobox to my FR-S, called it good, and called my vehicle an "FRZ"

FRZ= FRS/BRZ?

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radroach · 08-20-2013, 04:18 PM

I love my FRX AWD turbodiesel

Pneub · 08-20-2013, 05:04 PM

I was told I was an idiot for supercharging my BRZ because "Subaru's are only meant for turbos". 0_o

treystarks · 08-20-2013, 05:21 PM

I think fast is a relative term. If you came from an old 90s car like I did, the response of the gas pedal and the ability to take these corners. When people ask if its fast, I say it's quick, and spunky for a four cylinder.

Pneub · 08-20-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by treystarks

I think fast is a relative term. If you came from an old 90s car like I did, the response of the gas pedal and the ability to take these corners. When people ask if its fast, I say it's quick, and spunky for a four cylinder.

Just so people know I was bitching about people bitching about people saying their car wasn't fast.

Anyways, the car isn't slow, but when people think fast I don't think it falls anywhere near that category. Especially when you have other cars in a close price range that aren't considered "fast" that are a good amount faster.

But yes, it has a great throttle response, handling, it feels faster than it is, and it's lightweight with a small engine giving it a feeling of agility reminiscent to a go-kart. It is a lot of things, but still not fast. Saying it isn't fast is definitely not the dumbest thing that can be said. It's quite accurate.

Hags86 · 08-20-2013, 05:42 PM

I've got the Toyota with the Aero kit. The rear wing is huge!

Lady at work sees it in the carpark and says "why do you have an ironing board strapped on the back of it?". Immediately followed by "are you turning 40?"

The answer is yes! I'm in full midlife crisis mode and loving it.

Pneub · 08-20-2013, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hags86

I've got the Toyota with the Aero kit. The rear wing is huge!

Lady at work sees it in the carpark and says "why do you have an ironing board strapped on the back of it?". Immediately followed by "are you turning 40?"

The answer is yes! I'm in full midlife crisis mode and loving it.

To be fair, a lot of people think gigantic wings on public streets are a bit absurd and asking why you attached an ironing board to your car is a pretty funny (although rude) way of pointing it out.

FrancoFRS · 08-20-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kiichiro

Is that a Porsche?

I get that too.

BZBoarding101 · 08-20-2013, 06:17 PM

Guy: Man nice car
Me: Thanks
Guy: How fast does it go?
Me: As fast as I want it to

08-20-2013, 04:18 PM	#49
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I love my FRX AWD turbodiesel Last edited by radroach; 08-20-2013 at 04:29 PM.

08-20-2013, 05:04 PM	#50
Pneub Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Dark Grey BRZ Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 306 Thanks: 172 Thanked 143 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was told I was an idiot for supercharging my BRZ because "Subaru's are only meant for turbos". 0_o __________________ Completed build...for now Last edited by Pneub; 08-20-2013 at 05:20 PM. Reason: fuck it

08-20-2013, 05:42 PM	#53
Hags86 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: Toyota GTS 86 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 243 Thanks: 21 Thanked 118 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've got the Toyota with the Aero kit. The rear wing is huge! Lady at work sees it in the carpark and says "why do you have an ironing board strapped on the back of it?". Immediately followed by "are you turning 40?" The answer is yes! I'm in full midlife crisis mode and loving it. __________________ 2013 Toyota 86: 275rwkW Coyoda Water-to-air Intercooled Turbo with GTX2863. CP Carillo Rods and Pistons. Motec M150 ECU. Motec C125 Dash. Holinger SG 6 Speed Sequential Gearbox. OS Giken LSD. MCA Reds Coilover. AP Racing Essex Sprint Front Brakes. PWR Radiator and Intercooler heat exchanger.

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