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Old 07-02-2013, 12:43 PM   #43
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The Chrysler Grand Caravan and VW Routan. That's gotta be reliable eh?

Also the Saturn VUE used a Honda V6.
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An Isuzu Rodeo and Honda Passport were the same thing, badge engineered.
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Nissan Frontier and Suzuki Equator




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Edit: Might be wrong on the Buick/Suzuki, but I swear I've seen a Buick clone on the road...thought it was Buick until I rolled up closer and saw the badges.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:03 PM   #46
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Come on guys, don't forget this baby:

AC Ace


Shelby/AC Cobra:


I would consider this one to be one of the more successful actual collaborations (British sports car body and American motor engineering), although only in retrospect. At the time it was a financial failure, which is why they only lasted until 1967 here in the States...

Too bad for me because now all the originals cost a fortune!

Oh, and just so everyone is on the same page:

Badge engineered (Rebadged) - Applying a different brand or trademark to an existing model of product (especially automobiles) and marketing the result as a "different model".

Platform Sharing - Platform sharing is different from rebadging, as an automobile platform may be used in many different ways and applications, such as using a single platform to produce and sell a sedan and a Sport Utility Vehicle. Two such products are different vehicles, whereas badge engineering involves the sale of essentially a single vehicle.

Joint Development - This is where two or more automobiles manufacturers develop parts simultaneously in order to produce one of more vehicles that share parts between them. Differs from the previous due to the automobile being designed concurrently (such as the BRZ/FRS).

For an example of collaboration, look towards NUMMI, the plant in Fremont owned by both GM and Toyota (oddly, now a Tesla factory). This is where the Vibe/Matrix was built.

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I would consider this one to be one of the more successful actual collaborations (British sports car body and American motor engineering), although only in retrospect. At the time it was a financial failure, which is why they only lasted until 1967 here in the States...
The Sunbeam Tiger was successful, same concept, but does it qualify as a "collaboration" when it's buying someone else's car and (essentially) tuning it? Does RUF or Brabus or (old) Abarth count as a collaboration? That's basically all Shelby is, a factory supported tuner. If GM had given him the money I'm sure we could all go out and buy Shelby Camaros today.

Edit: Nobody mentioned Corolla/Nova
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The Kizashi is its own car.
The Buick Regal is a rebadged European Opel Insignia I think. (its a rebadged Opel something, like all of Buick)

Those two aren't related in any way.
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I bet no one guessed this.
Nissan quest and mercury villager.

I forgot what year lotus but i inow they used integra type r engine.
I don't think Lotus ever used a Honda motor.
The Elise/Exige used Rover K engines over in Europe and the Toyota 2ZZ-GE(Matrix XRS, Celica GTS, Corolla XRS) when they came to North America due to emissions.

The 2ZZ-GE acted and sounded very similar to an integra Type R motor, so you might be thinking of that, or someone swapped it in.
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The Sunbeam Tiger was successful, same concept, but does it qualify as a "collaboration" when it's buying someone else's car and (essentially) tuning it? Does RUF or Brabus or (old) Abarth count as a collaboration? That's basically all Shelby is, a factory supported tuner. If GM had given him the money I'm sure we could all go out and buy Shelby Camaros today.
I would consider it so because AC dropped the Ace right when they started working with Shelby to produce the Cobra in 1962. Neither could have produced such a car without help from the other. Just because the initial design of the Ace was developed before doesn't make Shelby's contribution any less significant.

Also, regarding Ruf (from wiki): Because the labor is so thorough, including the installation of Ruf-made parts instead of Bade Engineering, the company is recognized as a manufacturer by the German government.

While they are very closely tied to another manufacturer's base model, they are too different at heart to be classified simply as a "tuned" version. I would classify them as being a collaboration (albeit not a simultaneous one). It's a close call though, and you do bring up a valid point about what truly constitutes a "collaboration".

Also, what about the Callaway C16? Technically speaking, it's a Corvette, but is it really a Corvette?
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Saturn Sky and Pontiac Solstice... but they were both GM companies.
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I would consider it so because AC dropped the Ace right when they started working with Shelby to produce the Cobra in 1962.
I never realized AC did the accommodations to the chassis, I always figured Carol had just bought the cars and hacked them up in his shop.

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Still with RUF and Callaway, the OEM isn't doing any changes on their end, just selling the car to the "tuner" like they would any other consumer as far as I can tell.
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