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12-06-2018, 01:09 PM | #43 |
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I have found that I enjoy my vehicles a LOT more when I just drive them and don't read forums about all the problems folks have with them. Forums, including this one, are great for a few things. Grins and keeping in touch with other folks who love the same vehicle you do is certainly one of them. Another great function of the forum(s) is to find how-to picotorials to maintenance tasks and repairs that you haven't done previously, to make sure you're identifying things correctly.
A couple caveats.. you have to know your personality type. If you're the type who looks for problems, thinks every little sound you hadn't noticed previously is probably indicative of a major repair (when usually, it's a bent brake shield, loose heat shield, or something else meaningless), or just generally a "worrier," forums are the road to hell. I can be one of those folks, but I'm aware of it and proceed accordingly. You also have to know the internet and how folks work on it. There are a lot of people who "speak" (write) very glibly and sound quite knowledgeable, but in reality are just internet jockeys who just regurgitate stuff they've read before but have no real world experience with what is being discussed. Even worse, they write in such an intelligent manner that the sometimes incorrect (and sometimes downright wrong and dangerous) information they post is taken as truth by others without any background knowledge and then further dispersed. Vicious cycle. On the other end of the spectrum are folks who TRULY know their stuff and have tons of actual hands-on experience DOING repairs and maintenance, some professionally and highly respected, but either can't write well or competely, or just don't care or take the time to do so. Posts can be borderline illiterate, so folks discount their input wrongly. OF COURSE, there's lots of overlap.. extremely literate true experts, and a vast number if illiterate wannabes. THE challenge is in learning enough background info to be able to make good decisions as to which posts to believe, and which posts to discount. As with all things, even then, it's best to verify. If you read it in a forum, treat it as an idea. It's up to YOU to decide whether that idea is a fact, an opinion, a good idea, a bad idea, or an outright untruth. Therein lies the rub. My opinion to the O.P.? There's absolutely nothing wrong with your transmission, and you are shifting with too much force. Now... which type of poster am I?
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When I was in the sixth grade one of my teachers gave us an assignment to write out instructions for how to walk. Then he took our instructions and tried to follow them while the class laughed. It was a miracle he didn't end up in the hospital.
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Look, you're right that double clutching would "fix" the notchy shift. But IMO, that's not the best advice for a someone who said this is their first manual car. We're dealing with an inexperienced manual driver. He might not even know what double clutching is, or how to do it properly for all we know. Plus, this is a modern, synchronized transmission. Double clutching is unnecessary in almost every situation. So, I think spouting off about double clutching to solve a nonexistent 5th gear synchro "glitch" rather than just telling him to shift properly is isn't the best advice for this particular situation. OP: "My downshift into 5th feels notchy, what do you guys think? You: (just jokes, no disrespect intended) Quote:
Also, I don't recall saying to blip in neutral and then move into 5th, so I'm not really sure why you're talking about that. Quote:
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The last vehicle that I had to double clutch was a 1961 Army jeep but that was about 35 years ago. Double clutching a synchro tranny is not needed at any time if you have the revs right. There are many that will argue that point but that is reality. If somebody needs to double clutch all the time they have either broken their transmission or just can't hit the right range of revs.
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As for the "double clutch from 2nd to 1st" situation I know someone will bring up again, I downshift into first at like 15-20 mph almost every day pulling into the parking lot at my job with no issues. Whether that's considered "non-trivial" speed I dont know, but I've literally never had to double clutch to do it, that's for sure. |
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