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Old 02-24-2018, 03:52 AM   #43
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Oh, I was just happy when they moved the start thing to the inside of the car ....
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Old 02-24-2018, 04:07 AM   #44
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Sure that you weren't glad you didn't have to build up a head of steam?
Well, I don't remember steam powered cars ....... but, I do remember, as a kid, the old Case steam powered thrashing machine.

Now talking about lots of exposed moving parts to attract a child .....now, WHAT could go wrong there .......

My favorite pastime was dropping things on the long, flat drive belt to see how far they would go before getting thrown off.


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There ya go ........ oh, did yours come with a boot on it ...?? Cool mod!




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Old 02-24-2018, 04:17 AM   #46
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Well folks, that will wrap up my part of the old timers show ........ for tonight......


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Oh, YOU had a tape player in your car ...... an 8 TRACK at that ......
(spoilt city kid)


Before that, once you did find the choke knob and pulled it out, one had to reach all the way over to the center of the floorboard, with your right leg and push the starter pedal.

Don't forget to push the choke all the way in after a spell ..... NO, the manual never said how far and for how long to keep it pulled out.

If you wanted to dim your headlights ...... you had to find the dimmer switch on the floorboard ..... with your left foot ...... yep, the same one you used to push in the clutch ...... so get your timing right.

Fresh air ....... oh yes, just reach under the center of the dash and push the vent lever down. Don't forget to open up the side vent (manually) to let the smoke out.

OK, here we go down the highway. Cruise control ..... of course ..... just pull out the throttle cable, that's on the dash, and hold it out with a coin jammed behind it ...... size of coin would depend on how fast you wanted to go.

I just don't know how we managed ......





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False! If you had a dimmer switch that still worked in a car that was more than 2 years old then you were driving a Caddy. You could have high beams or you coud have low there was not a hope you could switch between the two.
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Design-wise...actually when I think about it...pretty much nothing. I actually don't like steering wheel buttons, I personally feel putting the start/stop button on the wheel is a bit idiotic too. The flat bottom wheel...I'm afraid I don't really notice them even on a car that has one. I don't mind losing the analog speedometer if it means we get useful information the really old cars once had like oil pressure, oil temperature, battery, etc. I don't know why you want to delete the manual parking brake because all the other solutions be it the foot parking brake or the really awful e-parking brake...they're much much worse. The shift light...we already got one in the correct place, why put it in a place where you'd have to look away or specifically look for it when turning?

As you can tell simply putting stuff on just for the sake putting stuff on doesn't impress me. I don't like cars that make me feel like an idiot with complicated controls, which is why I don't like Mercedes Benzes right now. There is some beauty in having controls that are simple and intuitive. Toyota and Subaru are probably the masters at automotive control designs. Using my sister's 2017 Impreza takes zero effort to understand all the basic and important controls, the only area it potentially falters is the high tech screen.

My main thing as to what can be improved on our car's interior...its just material choices, but its to be expected because the car isn't hideously expensive. Design improvement-wise there, I'd love to see the steering column particularly the bottom had something softer, be it padding or some softer material for those moments you rush to exit the car and avoid giving your right knee(other knee with RHD) a bruise. I don't like the silver plastic accents only because they don't look good, I've always considered getting those wrapped. Last real thing, lumbar support from the seat, I was lucky I found a great seat position in this car because bad positions give me a back ache really quickly...but for ergonomics sake having it is a real improvement for everyone.

With this as your only car, its really easy to take some of the design choices the interior team made for granted. I hop in and out of a lot cars...and the FRS/BRZ interior was one of the least stressful ones in the driver seat thanks to smart design. Nothing is complicated, nothing is in the wrong place, the layout is very accommodating, the front visibility is actually fantastic, you don't even need to be literate to use them, its how you'd expect everything to be. Even if someone ruined your settings getting them back into order takes nearly no time in comparison. Want to piss me off with interior design? Put me in a Mercedes-Benz and change the language into one I can't comprehend...and tell me simply to change it back. Death by stress is my most likely outcome because a lot of its controls don't make sense and they're worse when you don't understand the language its displaying.

That's how I feel.
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Old 02-24-2018, 03:41 PM   #49
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False! If you had a dimmer switch that still worked in a car that was more than 2 years old then you were driving a Caddy. You could have high beams or you coud have low there was not a hope you could switch between the two.
Oh, I forgot about you folks up in the corrosive north. Obviously, since the dimmer switch was mounted to the floorboard, if the whole floorboard had rusted away ...... the dimmer switch would be gone ......


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Oh, I forgot about you folks up in the corrosive north. Obviously, since the dimmer switch was mounted to the floorboard, if the whole floorboard had rusted away ...... the dimmer switch would be gone ......


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It was the first thing to go. For some weird reason mechanical switches don't seem to do well in salty water.
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You need to define how much you are willing to pay first.
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You need to define how much you are willing to pay first.
Well what does a 488 Pista go for?
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They ( the two manufactures) need to kill off the 86 in the coming 1-2 years if they aren't going to give it more hp/torque . Otherwise, if they come out with a 3rd Gen 86, it's only going to be marginal "improvements" ... changes.
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They ( the two manufactures) need to kill off the 86 in the coming 1-2 years if they aren't going to give it more hp/torque . Otherwise, if they come out with a 3rd Gen 86, it's only going to be marginal "improvements" ... changes.
lol
A. The NC was unupdated for almost a decade
B. The 370z will be a decade old next year
C. The 86 is still in it's first generation, the current model would be a facelift update, like a gen 1.5 as it has no major changes from the first release.

Don't expect a second gen until after 2020.
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lol
A. The NC was unupdated for almost a decade
B. The 370z will be a decade old next year
C. The 86 is still in it's first generation, the current model would be a facelift update, like a gen 1.5 as it has no major changes from the first release.

Don't expect a second gen until after 2020.
Haven't we heard for some time now that Toyota wanted a 3 sports car line up? If that's really the case, the 86 will be around for quite some time.
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