Advice before purchasing heavily modified 86

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Cole

Wait. Have you even driven a twin, and not just read reviews? This car definitely doesn't need boost. What it needs is someone who isn't chickenshit behind the wheel who will go 11/10 to get power out of the engine.

I guarantee you that it will take you years and years and years to outdrive the car to the point you need boost, but you sound like you're closer to the "OMG I TOTALLY NEED BOOST OR ELSE THIS CAR IS UNDRIVABLE BECAUSE MATT FARRAH AND TJ HUNT TOLD ME IT NEEDS TURBOS AND SUPERCHARGERS" end of the spectrum

Yep I've test driven the 16 and 17 models a couple of times for 30 mins each.

I generally agree with you, however I come from a superbike background and pretty much want an affordable motorbike with airbags and doors :P

I felt as a daily driver it lacked the oomph. Getting up to 80/100km/h on the Main roads here it felt like it was making a lot of noise but not getting anywhere. And it's hard to argue with almost every person that I've seen review a force inducted BRZ/86 and loved it with a huge grin on their face.

I would probably be happy with an unaltered modified as my daily, for a while, but then I probably wouldn't be able to justify dropping the dollars for FI.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Riftur

If the price was a lot less I would pay someone to scope the engine and make sure the internals are still in good condition. If everything looks good I would pay Bluebook + maybe 3k more depending on the condition of the car. That's just me. Don't forget you are getting a 2013 not a 2017. The guy wants 38k aud/ 29k us?

35k AUD.

Its also got a lot of aesthetic mods done on it (no rocket bunny thankfully) and he's spent a lot of money on the internals too, like apparently 6k AUD on the sound system, forward and reverse Dashcams etc. Not something I could ever justify lol.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by Riftur

Read this thread to see what modified cars are selling for. I know they dont deal with Australian laws so I don't know how much this helps.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113887

29,000 USD for a 2013 BRZ?

[Scrappydoo]

It's one of those "if you ask the question you wouldn't understand the answer" posts.

Do your research. See monstrosities that pimply youths call builds and think if you would really want to buy one?

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Cole

Wait. Have you even driven a twin, and not just read reviews? This car definitely doesn't need boost. What it needs is someone who isn't chickenshit behind the wheel who will go 11/10 to get power out of the engine.

While I generally agree with you, this made me chuckle. While it may not need boost.... that is the most cost effective way to make this engine a performer, so.... it kinda needs boost.

[Scrappydoo]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

While I generally agree with you, this made me chuckle. While it may not need boost.... that is the most cost effective way to make this engine a performer, so.... it kinda needs boost.

While I generally agree with you this made me chuckle...it doesn't need boost..the most effective way to make this engine perform is not to be chickenshit..so doesn't need boost or simple statements of opinions as fact......

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

While I generally agree with you, this made me chuckle. While it may not need boost.... that is the most cost effective way to make this engine a performer, so.... it kinda needs boost.

A performer in what way? The car definitely does not need boost for the majority of the things people do with the twins, yet I see more and more locally boosted twins that only go to cars and coffees and do burn outs in parking lots. So yeah, guess you NEED boost for that. Or, cars are put together so haphazardly that the only classes they qualify for are classes that are way out of their leagues.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Scrappydoo

While I generally agree with you this made me chuckle...it doesn't need boost..the most effective way to make this engine perform is not to be chickenshit..so doesn't need boost or simple statements of opinions as fact......

Lol, you can rev the car out and drive it hard but its still limited to what it is. Boost is the cheapest way to make investment worthy power with the FA20. Take that and then don't be a chickenshit, lol.

Originally Posted by Cole

A performer in what way? The car definitely does not need boost for the majority of the things people do with the twins, yet I see more and more locally boosted twins that only go to cars and coffees and do burn outs in parking lots. So yeah, guess you NEED boost for that. Or, cars are put together so haphazardly that the only classes they qualify for are classes that are way out of their leagues.

The car can do burnouts stock, but cars and coffee cred.... boost needed for sure. All depends on what you're truly doing with the car I guess, but even daily driving could benefit from some extra ponies. Boost is the most cost effective way to get that. To each their own, but I wonder how many people would say the car didn't need more power if the car had been offered with a factory turbo motor. I doubt we would see many people taking that off to go NA because it was enough.....

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Cole

A performer in what way? The car definitely does not need boost for the majority of the things people do with the twins, yet I see more and more locally boosted twins that only go to cars and coffees and do burn outs in parking lots. So yeah, guess you NEED boost for that. Or, cars are put together so haphazardly that the only classes they qualify for are classes that are way out of their leagues.

For sure.

If you need more power buy a different car. The handling characteristics are what these cars are about. If you want straight line speed get a 'Vette or something. I just don't get people bashing the power of these cars. If you drove one before buying and weren't happy with the car why did you even buy it with so many other faster cars to choose from.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Lol, you can rev the car out and drive it hard but its still limited to what it is. Boost is the cheapest way to make investment worthy power with the FA20. Take that and then don't be a chickenshit, lol.





The car can do burnouts stock, but cars and coffee cred.... boost needed for sure. All depends on what you're truly doing with the car I guess, but even daily driving could benefit from some extra ponies. Boost is the most cost effective way to get that. To each their own, but I wonder how many people would say the car didn't need more power if the car had been offered with a factory turbo motor. I doubt we would see many people taking that off to go NA because it was enough.....

People want more, they don't need more. Look at how many "totalled" threads pop up between here and the Facebook groups every week. There's a local guy, boosted his car last summer, this winter, crashed it four times hooning around in parking lots. So, with more power, the idiots would just get exposed faster.

If the car came with a factory turbo, more people wouldn't have been able to afford it though, so that would eliminate a lot of the young bucks who can't drive buying it, I guess.

Fwiw, I've never been in a situation where I was driving and screamed out "I NEED MORE POWER TO DO (insert thing here)" and I highly doubt you have, either.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by TommyW

For sure.

If you need more power buy a different car. The handling characteristics are what these cars are about. If you want straight line speed get a 'Vette or something. I just don't get people bashing the power of these cars. If you drove one before buying and weren't happy with the car why did you even buy it with so many other faster cars to choose from.

You realize a corvette is a better handling car than a brz and not limited to straight line speed correct?

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Cole

People want more, they don't need more. Look at how many "totalled" threads pop up between here and the Facebook groups every week. There's a local guy, boosted his car last summer, this winter, crashed it four times hooning around in parking lots. So, with more power, the idiots would just get exposed faster.

If the car came with a factory turbo, more people wouldn't have been able to afford it though, so that would eliminate a lot of the young bucks who can't drive buying it, I guess.

People who can't drive can't drive no matter how much power or lack of power there is....

Originally Posted by Cole

Fwiw, I've never been in a situation where I was driving and screamed out "I NEED MORE POWER TO DO (insert thing here)" and I highly doubt you have, either.

All the time, man. Maybe not screaming but.... when I'm trying to pass those fast ass minivans everyone talks about and they don't want me to. Lol.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

You realize a corvette is a better handling car than a brz and not limited to straight line speed correct?

some handle well and some not so well in comparison.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by TommyW

some handle well and some not so well in comparison.

Oh? Do praytell. I think you'd have to travel back in time several generations.