Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[86MLR]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I blame Skynet.

Keep the heid!

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by humfrz

OR, use that dude in a phase IV clinical trial of one (just keep increasing the dose to establish an LD50). -

Now that would be a step in the direction of his repaying his debt to society. But it still wouldn't come close to being fair punishment for denying hundreds of people their vaccine - and as a result potentially condemning some of them to death.

I'm just staggered with disbelief at how heinous some people can be. Horrendous atrocities have been committed by people, but this act of sheer stupidity and evil was completely pointless. What possible 'benefit' did the person get from this, other than to condemn other people to illness and death?

Just f#cking unbelievable....

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

It seems like supply is outpacing delivery. Obviously things will ramp up, but at the current rate, it will take 5-10 years to vaccine everyone. While 14-20 million doses will be delivered to the states by the end of the month, only 2.6-3 million doses will be given. Part of that is because of the holidays and weather, but it needs to improve quickly.

I think its also because of the limited percentage of the population that is eligible for the shots. Once they open it up to Tier 2 and 3, the take rate should increase exponentially.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by AnalogMan

Now that would be a step in the direction of his repaying his debt to society. But it still wouldn't come close to being fair punishment for denying hundreds of people their vaccine - and as a result potentially condemning some of them to death.

I'm just staggered with disbelief at how heinous some people can be. Horrendous atrocities have been committed by people, but this act of sheer stupidity and evil was completely pointless. What possible 'benefit' did the person get from this, other than to condemn other people to illness and death?

Just f#cking unbelievable....

TBH, i'm a little surprised this is the point that sets you over the edge. my boss is still hardcore convinced that the entire thing is a false population control/chipping event orchestrated by democrats and the chinese government.

the fact that this one guy left the vials out of refrigeration so they went bad(and therefore can't control the population, or add microchips) doesn't shock me in the least.

i'm actually a little surprised that we haven't heard of extremist groups blocking the shipping routes away from the facilities the vaccine is manufactured in. by now, there's enough theories/reasons/excuses by most of the groups, we could make a wheel of fortune wheel out of them all for media events.

"today, we're stopping the trucks for [spins wheel], to save the baby seals!"

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I think its also because of the limited percentage of the population that is eligible for the shots. Once they open it up to Tier 2 and 3, the take rate should increase exponentially.

California alone has 2.4 million healthcare workers, yet the nation has only vaccinated 2.6 million healthcare workers and high risk individuals. I do think things will improve, but this isn’t for a lack of supply from the manufacture or a demand for the vaccine—it is a mid-level coordination and delivery issue.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11848963/i...l-get-it-first

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I blame Skynet.

They are coming to dance on your skull:

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

They are coming to dance on your skull:

the comments from experienced robotic/programmers are interesting:
https://hackaday.com/2020/12/30/bost...leon-dynamite/

this seems advanced on the surface, but when one realizes that it's only following a pre-programmed routine because active processing is too taxing, it gets a lot less impressive

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

....but this isn’t for a lack of supply from the manufacture or a demand for the vaccine—it is a mid-level coordination and delivery issue..

Yea, I agree that seems to be the issue. There either needs to be clearer information on who is eligible when, or they need to open it up broader. The volume is just as important, if not more so, then the who in my opinion. Almost everyone I know outside of healthcare is on a "vaccine watch" wanting to know when they can get it.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

They are coming to dance on your skull:

Tell me about it. That shit paid for my college. I had to walk away.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by soundman98

TBH, i'm a little surprised this is the point that sets you over the edge. my boss is still hardcore convinced that the entire thing is a false population control/chipping event orchestrated by democrats and the chinese government.

the fact that this one guy left the vials out of refrigeration so they went bad(and therefore can't control the population, or add microchips) doesn't shock me in the least.

i'm actually a little surprised that we haven't heard of extremist groups blocking the shipping routes away from the facilities the vaccine is manufactured in. by now, there's enough theories/reasons/excuses by most of the groups, we could make a wheel of fortune wheel out of them all for media events.

"today, we're stopping the trucks for [spins wheel], to save the baby seals!"

That's because the Army is making distribution of the vaccines -

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Tell me about it. That shit paid for my college. I had to walk away.

What the hell are you talking about, old man?

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by soundman98

TBH, i'm a little surprised this is the point that sets you over the edge.

Unfortunately, there have been a distressingly large number of things that have happened recently that have pushed me over the edge. This is just one of many. A lot of people have done worse things that have resulted in greater and longer lasting harm to more people than this.

But it still strikes me as especially vile and contemptible, maybe in part because of the pettiness of the person who did it, for several reasons.

1. The coronavirus pandemic is a horrific catastrophe. At least 20 million Americans have become infected and 350,000 have died to date. Worldwide, officially about 84 million cases and almost 2 million deaths. The actual numbers are probably significantly higher.

2. So many people are risking, and giving, their lives in the face of the pandemic. Physicians and nurses caring for COVID-19 patients are literally risking their lives to do so. Many have paid with their lives while trying to help others, lives that might have been saved if they had been vaccinated.

3. So many people are at great risk of getting infected, and having a poor outcome. Like our neighbors who are in their 80's. We sit on pins and needles every time they insist on going out of their home, despite us doing our best to shop for them and give them no reason to go out (and we're not exactly low-risk either being in our 60's).

4. Many people don't realize what an incredible miracle it was to have not only one but two highly effective vaccines in just one year's time. The typical time to develop a vaccine is 10-15 years. The fastest it's ever been done before was 5 years. Most initial efforts fail, and it takes several iterations before finally getting a product that works. Sometimes it never works. Despite 40 years of effort and billions of dollars, there is still no effective vaccine for HIV. For the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines to achieve 95% effectiveness within one year of starting both programs is science-fiction level amazing.

Right now the need for the vaccine vastly exceeds the available supply (excepting some local situations where brain-dead imbeciles choose to not get vaccinated). It's worth more than its weight in platinum, because it has the ability to literally save people's lives. Distribution logistical problems aside, so many hundreds of millions of people need to be vaccinated, some more urgently than others.

Yet, this disgusting, narcissistic, self-absorbed, evil jerk comes along and commits a purely malevolent act of wanton destruction just for the cruelty of it. Maybe because it's impossible for me to put myself in the head of this cretin and try to imagine what could possibly have been going through his two functioning neurons to do what he did (I'd say even fewer than two neurons, but it probably takes at least that to control a hand removing vials from a freezer).

It's not that I can 'understand' criminals and scum doing barbaric things to others for the sake of their own enrichment, power, ego, etc., but it's possible to imagine why they thought it was in their interest to do so (causing harm to others to benefit themselves). In this case, I just can't comprehend why this useless pile of cytoplasm did what he did.

Because of what he did, some people will not get vaccinated. Some of those will certainly get infected, and some of those will die. This person is a murderer, plain and simple.

[Clipdat]

I agree. Lock him up and throw away the key. Or alternatively, firing squad.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

What the hell are you talking about, old man?

DARPA-funded robotics research in the late 90s