2013 Roush Mustang v6

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

For the V8 Mustangs, Roush developed an independent rear suspension system. Do we know if that system is carried over to this V6?


@Capt Canuck, i disagree about those(05-07) Mustangs being rubbish. I've watched them win in the SCCA and NASA races for years now.

whats wrong with the original rear suspension?

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

@Capt Canuck, i disagree about those(05-07) Mustangs being rubbish. I've watched them win in the SCCA and NASA races for years now.

That's fair enough. But is that out of the box?
I had an BMWCCA HPDE instructor who had an '06 Mustang and he took me out for a session in it. Indeed it went pretty damn well, especially with a quality driver But it wasn't a Mustang you could walk into a dealership and buy. It had had a bit of work done.

[Asterisked Accolade]

Originally Posted by fatoni

whats wrong with the original rear suspension?

It's a live axle and borrows it's technology from lumber wagons from 1903. LoL.

The Roush however has a very well-done independent rear suspension system. Top Gear BBC did a very nice demonstration on why the IRS on the Roush is better on one of their episodes-- pitting a standard mustang versus the Roush. The Roush was better planted and could get through the turns more quickly and without as much oversteer.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

The Roush however has a very well-done independent rear suspension system. Top Gear BBC did a very nice demonstration on why the IRS on the Roush is better on one of their episodes-- pitting a standard mustang versus the Roush. The Roush was better planted and could get through the turns more quickly and without as much oversteer.

We're you watching the repeats on Thursday night as well, lol.

[Asterisked Accolade]

Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

That's fair enough. But is that out of the box?
I had an BMWCCA HPDE instructor who had an '06 Mustang and he took me out for a session in it. Indeed it went pretty damn well, especially with a quality driver But it wasn't a Mustang you could walk into a dealership and buy. It had had a bit of work done.

Things are changed in the A Sedan class in the SCCA, the requirements are listed here :
http://cms.scca.com/documents/Club%2...20GCR/ASCS.pdf and you can decide for yourself if those changes are enough to still declare the Mustang rubbish out of the box.

I've heard on another forum i'm on (Grassroots Motorsports) that changing a mustang's strut/spring system is like night and day. So perhaps a fresh factory mustang is a bit rough, but with some proper coilovers or even struts it can be much better.

I take issue with saying the Mustangs are rubbish.

EDIT: No, i didn't see any reruns on TV, i watch on YouTube. No commercials.
EDIT #2: Here is a link to an SCCA race in A-Sedan last year where Tom Sloe in his Mustang tears up the place. http://www.speedcasttv.com/#/races/278

[Laika]

That looks badass!!!! They did a very good job with this. I'm guessing a lot of the Ford guys would probably figure you could practically get a base GT for that money though, huh? That would be tough to turn down 100+ more hp for a car that looks like this but I'd probably be very tempted.

[reni]

sorry but that front end looks stupid as hell. What's the american version of rice called?.... Corn?

[Capt Canuck]

Asterisked Accolade: Thanks for the links. According to the rule book there a shedload of things you can change, so yes I certainly don't disagree you can make a capable car out of a base Mustang.

If you're having trouble seeing past the rubbish monicker, how about this:
In my limited experience of driving Mustangs as hire cars, I do not like the 05-07 Mustang, but I do like the 2011+ Mustang.

That's me done, thanks again for the links.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

It's a live axle and borrows it's technology from lumber wagons from 1903. LoL.

The Roush however has a very well-done independent rear suspension system. Top Gear BBC did a very nice demonstration on why the IRS on the Roush is better on one of their episodes-- pitting a standard mustang versus the Roush. The Roush was better planted and could get through the turns more quickly and without as much oversteer.

whats wrong with live axles? nobody ever complains about the ae86 and its garbage handling. when i drive my friends 12 mustang i dont see notice anything that needs fixing. i mean, yeah it could be better but you could say that about every car.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Capt Canuck

Sure but those Mustangs a generally considered rubbish. I would expect those to tank in price, especially because 4 yrs after 2007, you have 2011 and the good Mustangs

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

For the V8 Mustangs, Roush developed an independent rear suspension system. Do we know if that system is carried over to this V6?


@Capt Canuck, i disagree about those(05-07) Mustangs being rubbish. I've watched them win in the SCCA and NASA races for years now.

I woud not consider my 2005 Mustang V6 Convertible (my wife's DD) rubbish. It's a very satisfying daily driver. Sure, I wouldn't want to race it, but its a good solid car for us. I guess it just depends on your mission.

[uspspro]

I like it!

But... I would never get one. It just doesn't suit me. The BRZ is more "me." I've owned 5 MR2s (4 mk1s and 1 MRS), and to me the BRZ is the same type of car (even though it's FR). Some cars just appeal to me, and others don't.

[GenkiElite]

Originally Posted by reni

sorry but that front end looks stupid as hell. What's the american version of rice called?.... Corn?

The grill or the stripe? The grill is classic Roush and not bad IMO but that hood stipe looks out of place.

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by fatoni

12 but with such a huge discount i think its easy to forgive that

True..but they getting harder and harder to find..besides the discounts on the 13's are getting bigger and bigger....

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

It's a live axle and borrows it's technology from lumber wagons from 1903. LoL.

The Roush however has a very well-done independent rear suspension system. Top Gear BBC did a very nice demonstration on why the IRS on the Roush is better on one of their episodes-- pitting a standard mustang versus the Roush. The Roush was better planted and could get through the turns more quickly and without as much oversteer.

A IRS will never be better for straightline accelaration or the dragstrip...I mean never ever never when it comes to that Fords 9 rear end is 1 of the most important automotive discovers in history...the Cobra and GT40 didnt dominate roadracing in its era because the live axel sucked...just food for thought...