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Old 03-10-2014, 03:00 PM   #29
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Clint, you might like to know she also said there NO dealer in the US that had any BRZ's on the lot...
Bahahaha
I almost brought up the fact that u have 50+ sitting there but decided not to.

I'm seriously thinking of flying out to Colorado to buy from you and driving it home to Boston.
one dealer here in atlanta has about 15 on their lot. Another has 10 or so. There's plenty out there..
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:06 PM   #30
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Salesperson at dealership doesn't know jack shit.

Now, I have a Nigerian prince friend and he's trying to unlock ~$20million in assets but needs stateside help. He'll give you a 35% cut if you send him $10K USD required for several fees over there.
Would he prefer western union or just a bunch of postal money orders?
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:38 PM   #31
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Yeah but the turbo one will be a turbodiesel hybrid with AWD, lol.

http://jalopnik.com/subaru-admits-de...o-di-464255444
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:00 PM   #32
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Dealer says Brz Sti is turboed
Dealer is WRONG.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:26 PM   #33
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Saleslady at Clay Subaru told me that the BRZ STI will be available in a couple of months for order and it comes factory with a turbocharger is there any truth to this?
I insisted that it did not come with a turbocharger but she was very persistent that it did and that I was misinformed.
So is she right, or like a typical salesperson and not know shit about the product they're selling?
Wait... you already insisted you know more about the car than her, and yet you're asking us to confirm what you already supposedly know?

I'm confused.

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Old 03-10-2014, 11:21 PM   #34
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Wait... you already insisted you know more about the car than her, and yet you're asking us to confirm what you already supposedly know?

I'm confused.

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Yup, I was pretty sure until she continued insisting i was wrong so it made me second guess myself.
Figured i'd ask the experts.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:37 PM   #35
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Just go to Quirk Works Subaru in Braintree instead.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #36
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My dealer said my BRZ is boosted too.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:37 PM   #37
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I am no businessman so correct me if I am wrong. There is a certain market for "specialized/sports/niche" vehicles. I feel certain the educated people developing this car understood that. The miata is the most affordable, RWD, sports care available. Disregarding that, it was a known fact prototypes of our car were routinely seen bench-marking against caymans.

hmmm.....

I don't think the engineers and businessman are stupid. I think they knew if they could produce a vehicle with as close as possible Porsche handling AND near miata price point and power, they would had an EASY success.

Seems like they have achieved that, what do you think?

As a business graduate, I think you make a valid and excellent point. The success of a product, though heavily weighted on the financial viability from a shareholder or owner's perspective, is measured qualitatively as well.

The public and critical response to the car has been overwhelmingly positive, instantly reflecting positively on both Toyota's and Subaru's brand image. By showing that both companies are capable of defying the perceived boundaries by building a purposeful sports car, they have diversified their portfolio and paved the path to future developments like the FT-1.

These types of vehicles bring in buyers from a market that their current vehicles do not tap into at all. Even though it may not be nearly as profitable as selling corollas and imprezas, the exposure they get is more than worth it from a market analysis perspective. This will help justify future exciting ventures like this, even if profits are low, for as long as they are not sinking and LOSING lots of money, it allows them to get FR-S/GT86/BRZ buyers into the brand family...guess what brands they may be more inclined to consider when it comes time for a family sedan or SUV?

@DSOmegaX - Hit the nail on the head in differentiating the term 'success'. You are right, the twins will never be seen as a success in the same way as a Corolla or Camry through #1 overall sales numbers and volume profits. It will, however, be credited with with tapping into that niche under $30k 'practical' sports car market that has so far been a void for both manufacturers. I'm sure over the next couple years production won't be as much as 2013/2014 as sales begin to slow, but they will be more profitable and over the life of the car it will not only be a commercial success, but a financial one as well...paving the way for cars like the FT-1 as you mentioned.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:39 PM   #38
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And back on topic, LOL it makes me laugh hearing all the lies coming from certain dealers. Thankfully, not all are like that and there are some car enthusiasts among them who do their research like all of us
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Old 03-11-2014, 03:25 PM   #39
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The fact is, in it's short existence, it has outsold the miata year for year. How does that equate to poor sales?
Well the Miata sells terribly thanks to a very old design, absurd price, and the amazing amount of cheap high quality used Miatas that are easily available. You would literally have to hate money to buy a new one.

I think a more interesting point is the supply demand curve may be changing sharply, especially with the Fiesta ST and the 2015 WRX coming out soon.
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This is usually how it goes when I go into a dealership...or talk to just about any sales person ever.

They are handy for helping you find the specific parts you're looking for, though
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:56 AM   #41
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I almost had to pay back a bet I won because of this thread. Lol.

God, if only it were true. But I doubt they would only turbo the BRZ and not have ANY mention of it in the FRS rumor mill. Especially with them killing off the convertible idea.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:08 AM   #42
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Last week, i asked a subaru saleman "the 2015 STI launch edition, does it come with Harman Kardon sound system ?" His respond "yes !! It is a Limited STI, which will come with Gold wheels, and Cheaper than the regular Limited STI because Launch Edition, and is only 1000 to be produced"

Guess what ? The only part he was right = 1000 number of the Launch edition. The rest ? He spoke cluelessly about.
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