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Trac Toy · 03-09-2014, 06:21 PM

That's a good point. I only ever take the car out as a play thing. But yeah Milage and daily use are a key factor.

FLYFISHR · 03-09-2014, 06:44 PM

Someone today was telling me that 91 in Canada is the same as 93 in the US. Has anyone else ever heard this?

Dipstik-sportech · 03-09-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYFISHR

Someone today was telling me that 91 in Canada is the same as 93 in the US. Has anyone else ever heard this?

The person who said this was either high or incredibly stupid. Our 91 is barely equivalent to their 89, let alone their 93.

The Frozen North

Trac Toy · 03-09-2014, 06:46 PM

It's all the same. It all comes from the same refineries.

Dipstik-sportech · 03-09-2014, 07:07 PM

I'll let you think that. Ask @FullBlown how bad our fuel is compared to theirs

The Frozen North

D88 · 03-09-2014, 07:13 PM

Esso 91 almost exclusively since I have a few hundred dollars of fuel cards to use. I tried Petro 94 and there wasn't any noticeable difference in performance and the cricket noise was very loud. I haven't tried Shell yet but will if I run out of the Esso fuel cards.

FLYFISHR · 03-09-2014, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

The person who said this was either high or incredibly stupid. Our 91 is barely equivalent to their 89, let alone their 93.

The Frozen North

I thought it sounded odd.

wparsons · 03-09-2014, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

I'll let you think that. Ask @FullBlown how bad our fuel is compared to theirs

The Frozen North

Not doubting you, but what are they basing it off? This is the first I've heard about Canadian gas being so inferior compared to US gas.

What gas were you running?

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Originally Posted by FLYFISHR

Someone today was telling me that 91 in Canada is the same as 93 in the US. Has anyone else ever heard this?

Were they maybe thinking about Europe, which uses a different octane calculation? The same fuel has two different ratings because of a different type of rating.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating"]Octane rating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Dipstik-sportech · 03-09-2014, 10:45 PM

I was running esso 91 when my car was tuned. I'll have to let LJ chime in to say why it's bad but I think it just doesn't seem to have the same resistance to knock

The Frozen North

wparsons · 03-10-2014, 11:23 AM

Well there's your problem, the consensus everywhere is that Esso gas is pretty much like running your car on pee

I'd like to see a comparison of Shell 91 or Petro 94 to what's available in the US, I would imagine it stacks up really well.

TOZER · 03-10-2014, 11:24 AM

Always shell 91 well because no crickets

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jvincent · 03-10-2014, 11:30 AM

Interesting reading this thread.

I've been running Esso 91 pretty much exclusively because of the locations of the gas stations on my commute. I haven't noticed any issues at all.

It may be worth noting that I have been running an OFT tune from nearly the beginning as well. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Dipstik-sportech · 03-10-2014, 12:57 PM

Shell 91 here is crap, I only run esso. Put a tank of shell 91 in my buddy's truck with a 11:1 400 small block and it pinged, Turned the timing back and it was OK. Refilled with esso and set the timing back where it was before shell and it ran fine.

The Frozen North

thunderlights · 03-10-2014, 02:13 PM

In toronto, Ontario i used to run Shell 91 V Power until esso came out with there 93 octane and i switched to that. idk if its just in my head but the throttle response seems crsiper with 93.

03-09-2014, 06:21 PM	#29
Trac Toy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Durham Region, Canukistan. Posts: 506 Thanks: 224 Thanked 154 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's a good point. I only ever take the car out as a play thing. But yeah Milage and daily use are a key factor. __________________ .o0+Eric+0o. 2016 Chrysler 200S 3.6 2013 FRS 6MT

03-09-2014, 06:44 PM	#30
FLYFISHR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2014 BR"ZED" Sport-tech DGM MT Location: GTA CANADA Posts: 739 Thanks: 470 Thanked 262 Times in 165 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Someone today was telling me that 91 in Canada is the same as 93 in the US. Has anyone else ever heard this? __________________ Old enough to know better but young enough to do it again

03-09-2014, 06:46 PM	#32
Trac Toy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Durham Region, Canukistan. Posts: 506 Thanks: 224 Thanked 154 Times in 111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's all the same. It all comes from the same refineries. __________________ .o0+Eric+0o. 2016 Chrysler 200S 3.6 2013 FRS 6MT

03-09-2014, 07:07 PM	#33
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'll let you think that. Ask @FullBlown how bad our fuel is compared to theirs The Frozen North __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

03-09-2014, 10:45 PM	#37
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was running esso 91 when my car was tuned. I'll have to let LJ chime in to say why it's bad but I think it just doesn't seem to have the same resistance to knock The Frozen North __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

03-09-2014, 07:13 PM	#34
D88 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2014 Scion FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 156 Thanks: 67 Thanked 77 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Esso 91 almost exclusively since I have a few hundred dollars of fuel cards to use. I tried Petro 94 and there wasn't any noticeable difference in performance and the cricket noise was very loud. I haven't tried Shell yet but will if I run out of the Esso fuel cards.

03-10-2014, 11:24 AM	#39
TOZER Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S Location: Brantford,Ontario Posts: 271 Thanks: 32 Thanked 93 Times in 61 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Always shell 91 well because no crickets Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-10-2014, 11:30 AM	#40
jvincent Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,746 Thanks: 131 Thanked 1,411 Times in 715 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Interesting reading this thread. I've been running Esso 91 pretty much exclusively because of the locations of the gas stations on my commute. I haven't noticed any issues at all. It may be worth noting that I have been running an OFT tune from nearly the beginning as well. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

03-10-2014, 12:57 PM	#41
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Shell 91 here is crap, I only run esso. Put a tank of shell 91 in my buddy's truck with a 11:1 400 small block and it pinged, Turned the timing back and it was OK. Refilled with esso and set the timing back where it was before shell and it ran fine. The Frozen North __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished

03-10-2014, 02:13 PM	#42
thunderlights Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 88 Thanks: 14 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In toronto, Ontario i used to run Shell 91 V Power until esso came out with there 93 octane and i switched to that. idk if its just in my head but the throttle response seems crsiper with 93.

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