Best habit to shift gears on MT and fuel economy

[bcj]

Run the tank out and fill with premium. You'll at least have a fighting chance.
The dealer I got mine from thought all the Scions ran on regular.

No clues to be had anywhere.

[dssence]

Originally Posted by bcj

Run the tank out and fill with premium. You'll at least have a fighting chance.
The dealer I got mine from thought all the Scions ran on regular.

No clues to be had anywhere.

Yup that's what I was thinking off , should I reach to the low fuel led light? and then refuel. Was going to fill up with Vpower from shell.
To make matters worst stupid dealer forgot the underside rubber grummets and the rubber pads which go on top of the suspesion struts.

PD: Could this be a manufacture fault from your view? I would have to have at least a cel on I think.. car is working fine no strange noises nor anything.. just this annoying fuel thing

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by dssence

thanks Eric I did enable G-on didn't have it enabled before.. I know the arrow kicks up when it's in a high rpm range.. and I don't know if that's the optimum point for conservative fuel economy..

The shift arrow usually shows up around 2k RPMs...

I couldn't imagine this being different from car to car.

[dssence]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

The shift arrow usually shows up around 2k RPMs...

I couldn't imagine this being different from car to car.

Gonna check that cause if it's showing far higher than 2k then somethings wrong with the ECU or my car. To make matters worse.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by dssence

Kay so what would you do in my case. I still haven't emptied the tank filled my by dealer. I'm in half a tank. Should I empty it and do a full recharge shell's vpower? see how it goes.
should I take it to the dealer to check the ECU .. ?

Well, dssence, I think your math is suffering from a small representative sample.

I would suggest you fill up your car's tank with premium gas (til the pump clicks off) and re-set the trip odemeter to 0.

Drive, keeping the rpms below about 4,000, till the tank is down to 1/4 full. Fill up at the same station at the same pump (to click off). Divide the miles driven by the gallons of gas consumed (or kilometers/liters).

Do this about 3 times, checking your milage each time. This will give you a good idea of your average gas milage.

Then come back with your findings ......

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by ericmpena

It depends on what gear your in, but I would trust it anyways. Also, I wouldn't use the instantaneous MPG reader. Use the AVG MPG. It updates less often but is much more realistic. With regular driving you should get about 320 miles on a full tank, with about 28mpg.

Don't forget, it probably has a smaller gas tank than your previous car, so while it may seem like you're burning through gas faster...the tank is rather small so you will need to stop for gas more often.

I think the instant gas mileage is only useful as a pointer about what sorts of driving styles cause bad mileage - i.e. hard acceleration obviously puts you at higher consumption, but also hard deceleration as pointed out before.

I use it to gauge how much unnecessary consumption I am causing (i.e. if I'm not in "fun mode")

[Cyau]

Originally Posted by ntron1

1) Pretend there is an egg between your foot and the gas pedal
2) Coast downhill in Neutral not in gear.
3) I change gears between 2k-2.2k
4) I keep 10+ car distance between me and cars in front of me, so I almost never have to brake (wastes alot of gas)

I must disagree with you here. First of all, coasting downhill in neutral is somewhat dangerous, and it eats up brake pads a lot more.

Also, when you cost IN gear, you consume 0 gas, because your engine is driven by the "wheels".

However, if you coast NOT in gears but in neutral. You are actually consuming gas. The engine has to inject a small amount of gas into the engine in order to keep the engine spinning, or else the engine will stall.


Do correct me if I'm wrong though.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by Cyau

I must disagree with you here. First of all, coasting downhill in neutral is somewhat dangerous, and it eats up brake pads a lot more.

Also, when you cost IN gear, you consume 0 gas, because your engine is driven by the "wheels".

However, if you cost NOT in gear but in neutral. You are actually consuming gas. The engine has to inject a small amount of gas into the engine in order to keep the engine spinning, or else the engine will stall.


Do correct me if I'm wrong though.

I think you've hit the nail on the head.

[marky]

sorry to ask.. but i drive a sports car whats MPG?

[Euro7R]

This is personally my perspective, others may agree or disagree. If fuel economy is that important, might as well get an economy car for good fuel mileage. I always hear individuals complain about fuel economy or how to achieve good fuel economy, but they are driving vehicles that aren't meant to be super good on fuel economy.

Back to the thread. I usually shift around 3000 rpm and drive like a turtle from the get go; however, it annoys me when someone behind me is tailing my butt because I'm starting off slow.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by Euro7R

This is personally my perspective, others may agree or disagree. If fuel economy is that important, might as well get an economy car for good fuel mileage. I always hear individuals complain about fuel economy or how to achieve good fuel economy, but they are driving vehicles that aren't meant to be super good on fuel economy.

Back to the thread. I usually shift around 3000 rpm and drive like a turtle from the get go; however, it annoys me when someone behind me is tailing my butt because I'm starting off slow.

Actually this car gets better than the economy car that I previously owned.

More horsepower, better handling, and better fuel efficiency! FRS ftw.

[DarkSunrise]

If you car is brand new, your gas mileage will increase after the first couple of tanks.

Also as others have said, upshift before 3000 rpm and whenever you're moving at a constant speed (highway, etc.), upshift into the lowest gear possible.

[ntron1]

Originally Posted by Cyau

I must disagree with you here. First of all, coasting downhill in neutral is somewhat dangerous, and it eats up brake pads a lot more.

Also, when you cost IN gear, you consume 0 gas, because your engine is driven by the "wheels".

However, if you coast NOT in gears but in neutral. You are actually consuming gas. The engine has to inject a small amount of gas into the engine in order to keep the engine spinning, or else the engine will stall.


Do correct me if I'm wrong though.

We'll just have to agree to disagree..but that's ok .

[dssence]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

If you car is brand new, your gas mileage will increase after the first couple of tanks.

Also as others have said, upshift before 3000 rpm and whenever you're moving at a constant speed (highway, etc.), upshift into the lowest gear possible.

Hey so you mean to upshift before 3k rpm but didn't understand what you meant by upshift into the lowest gear? what for would you upshift into a lower gear? that would be to lower speed . Dont' get it