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Old 01-22-2014, 01:26 AM   #29
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Just remember with a salvaged title your warranty is void. Period. The salvage title is attached to your VIN and even if you buy genuine Subaru parts for the car, those parts will have no warranty either since the title will be salvaged.

Meaning say you have to buy a new engine in a year from Subaru and two days later that new engine dies.. You are otta luck because Subaru will deny any warranty claim on a salvaged car.

IMHO, it is not worth it. Save up a few more thousand and get a car that is not salvaged. Unless this is just gonna be some track car and not your daily driver.
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Not all salvage have engine problems bro. I have purchased rebuilt cars before. They run perfectly fine if repaired correctly.


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Just remember with a salvaged title your warranty is void. Period. The salvage title is attached to your VIN and even if you buy genuine Subaru parts for the car, those parts will have no warranty either since the title will be salvaged.

Meaning say you have to buy a new engine in a year from Subaru and two days later that new engine dies.. You are otta luck because Subaru will deny any warranty claim on a salvaged car.

IMHO, it is not worth it. Save up a few more thousand and get a car that is not salvaged. Unless this is just gonna be some track car and not your daily driver.
It may also not be insurable. Check with your underwriter, many won't cover a rebuild.

Ask the seller to bring the title and registration for your review.

Also, agree to meet in front of a police station during daylight hours.

This deal reminds me of a saying:

"Old age and treachery always overcomes youth and skill."

and...

"A business relationship often starts with one party having the money, the other the experience. It ends when the one with the money has the experience and the other has the money."

If it were me, I'd stay far, far away from this deal.
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Old 01-22-2014, 08:13 AM   #32
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I found this one also. If you could get this for 14k would you buy? It's obviously crashed and repaired.

http://frederick.craigslist.org/cto/4234998771.html


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Carbon fiber hood? The original is aluminum and weighs a little more than a beer can.

I just found out that that post on Craigslist is actually on the forums in the classifieds.


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Old 01-22-2014, 10:32 AM   #34
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Not all salvage have engine problems bro. I have purchased rebuilt cars before. They run perfectly fine if repaired correctly.


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No, that is not what I am saying. If the OP understands he will have zero warranty on any genuine Toyota or Subaru part, even if he buys them tomorrow brand new, and he does not care he should go for it.

There is a guy at NASIOC who just put a brand new Subaru engine in his salvaged STI and it blew within a year. Subaru will not give him any assistance (parts or labor) because his car had a salvaged title. It voids all warranty work.
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In addition to the possibility of not being able to insure or file warranty claims on a salvage you probably will have issues getting bank financed or it will be short term high interest. If you don't have cash you should probably skip this one.

Salvage titles aren't really a discount, they're a gamble on future expenses. If you have cash and pursue a salvage, engine is one thing to worry about (but if the block wasn't touched, meh-), more likely to have possible future alignment issues (if front end) causing, tire wear, brake wear, differential issues, strut towers checking out early. Some of these things you won't know about until they fail.
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In addition to the possibility of not being able to insure or file warranty claims on a salvage you probably will have issues getting bank financed or it will be short term high interest. If you don't have cash you should probably skip this one.

Salvage titles aren't really a discount, they're a gamble on future expenses. If you have cash and pursue a salvage, engine is one thing to worry about (but if the block wasn't touched, meh-), more likely to have possible future alignment issues (if front end) causing, tire wear, brake wear, differential issues, strut towers checking out early. Some of these things you won't know about until they fail.
Or discovering at an awkward moment that the rebuilder "forgot" to replace deployed airbags.
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Carfax doesn't always tell the whole story.

Get it inspected by a professional to see if there are signs of damage, repairs, paintwork, etc.
This. Carfax rarely tells even most of the story. Go look at the car yourself or have a professional exam it from top to bottom.
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Or discovering at an awkward moment that the rebuilder "forgot" to replace deployed airbags.
I've heard that this would be grounds for a pretty serious lawsuit, since selling a car without airbags (or with replaced airbags) and not disclosing it is serious stuff. The PO of my Miata must have removed the airbag module on it... Either way, I replaced the steering wheel so you can be sure that when I sell it the bill of sale is going to clearly state that there are no airbags.
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I've heard that this would be grounds for a pretty serious lawsuit, since selling a car without airbags (or with replaced airbags) and not disclosing it is serious stuff. The PO of my Miata must have removed the airbag module on it... Either way, I replaced the steering wheel so you can be sure that when I sell it the bill of sale is going to clearly state that there are no airbags.
Almost guaranteed if a dealer sale, not sure if a private sale and the seller clearly states "AS IS" on the BOS.
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Unless you don't mind a salvage title. Don't be in a rush to buy it. I've seen plenty of fr-s at that price when i was shopping. A salvage title can be anything from a simple hood dent, to a unrepairable frame damage. Hell, i even read a story of a dude that bought a salvaged vehicle due to water damage. Ok simple fix, drain it, dry it, clean it. Apparently the lake the car sunk into had some dirty water. Cut his leg getting in, got an infection and died later on. Seems a bit extreme but thats what i read. Anyways, when going to a meet bring a friend as a witness or just in case if this is a shady operation. Inspect the car and take your time. Don't rush, the other party may rush you to get rid of the vehicle.
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Whichever car you're most interested in, get a pre-purchase inspection at a Subaru dealer.

Should cost about $100.

Money well spent either way.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:22 AM   #42
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Too good to be true, if it's salvage I wouldn't buy it. There's a reason it's so cheap and it's not worth your life for something you use so much.
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