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Old 01-17-2014, 10:26 AM   #29
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Assuming Bob over at drift office is a decent tuner and doesn't have money coming from a brand, the best so far is the HKS EL.

Nameless, PPE, Revolution, any of the crazy JDM headers have yet to be 3rd party tested.
Let's be fair. The Jdl uel header made a lot of power on the drift office dyno and it was a completely stock car other than the header. The hks results were for a full exhaust and intake. Also, different car and different day. You can't really extrapolate a comparison between the two from the drift office data other than they are probably the best options out there at this time. There are a few cars running the Jdl uel that have posted 200+whp without e85.

The best header is the one that makes the most power. I'd say that's between the Jdl and hks for the time being with no clear favorite.
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I'm just going to say JDL because UEL, and the fact that third party dynos are showing it's really awesome. I love this header. Probably my favorite mod on my car so far for that subie sound and great performance.
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"Best" FT86 UEL Headers

JDL > RW > OFH > Borla > FA20

Currently JDL's headers is the FT86 UEL benchmark.

Nameless EL will soon be released, and may be the best performer yet. Nameless makes extremely high quality products.

The new OpenFlash Header (OFH) is also yet to be released, thus it's quality, sound and performance increase are still speculative based on prototype. OpenFlash and Vishu Tunning are highly regarded, so this header may surprise many with it's quality and performance for the price; thus my subjective ranking of it could increase.

FA20 seems to be falling from grace recently, with poorly manufactured products and customer service. Based on that fact, I'm listing their once great header low.

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"Best" FT86 UEL Headers

JDL < RW < OFH < Borla < FA20

Currently JDL's headers is the FT86 UEL benchmark.

Nameless UEL will soon be released, and may be the best performer yet. Nameless makes extremely high quality products.

The new OpenFlash Header (OFH) is also yet to be released, thus it's quality, sound and performance increase are still speculative based on prototype. OpenFlash and Vishu Tunning are highly regarded, so this header may surprise many with it's quality and performance for the price; thus my subjective ranking of it could increase.

FA20 seems to be falling from grace recently, with poorly manufactured products and customer service. Based on that fact, I'm listing their once great header low.
Nameless EL

If Nameless was making a UEL, I'd be all over it! That's not Jason's style though. Even if the EL makes 1 WHP over the UEL, EL will be the decision.
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Didn't take it like that at all, joking back at you.

You'd think after all that education I'd get my greater than signs correct, when posting on the internet. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Check out this test from nelsmar http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55770

Seems to me removing the stock cats on the stock headers could be cheapest and maybe one of the best ways to go.
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Gutting the stock seems to only be good if you're going FI...


I've also seen people claim 195hp with borla and an "intake" which everyone else has shown make no difference.

The real benchmark is 13.90 sec 1/4 mile with HKS headers.
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Borla is the most popular but I wouldn't say it's the best. It's perhaps one of the most budget friendly. However, what are your goals? The most power?
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All this 'best' crap on these forums gets a little old. Most of the time it's "what's the best header sold in the US"

Buy a HyperRev magazine. You'll see 20 headers in there not even discussed on here. Some made to bolt up to 54mm exhaust, some 60, some 65, some 70. Different designs, flexis, prices etc etc.

Same thing with pulley kits, flywheels, exhausts, pretty much everything. Except FI kits, they seem to be well known about.

And fwiw, all this hype behind Nameless, yet nothing is mentioned of Toda Racing? I brought it up a couple of times, but it gets lost in the hype.

Some of these JDM companies design multiple prototypes, and test them all. They put them on tester cars and race cars for MONTHS, have the time before even announcing anything.

Constantly reading comments about "omfg jdl/nameless are teh best!!!11!1" Just settle down, Yankee Doodle.

The only part that IMO I have come across for this platform that is US made, and better than everything/anything available in Japan, is the robispec radiator.

And, let the flaming / patriotism begin.

But seriously, if you actually care about knowing about what is actually out there, you need to be looking in Japan. There is more gt86 parts available there now, than the rest of the world combined; maybe 2 -3 times more.
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"Best" FT86 UEL Headers

JDL > RW > OFH > Borla > FA20

Currently JDL's headers is the FT86 UEL benchmark.

Nameless EL will soon be released, and may be the best performer yet. Nameless makes extremely high quality products.

The new OpenFlash Header (OFH) is also yet to be released, thus it's quality, sound and performance increase are still speculative based on prototype. OpenFlash and Vishu Tunning are highly regarded, so this header may surprise many with it's quality and performance for the price; thus my subjective ranking of it could increase.

FA20 seems to be falling from grace recently, with poorly manufactured products and customer service. Based on that fact, I'm listing their once great header low.
Having compared our header to other, much more expensive headers, I'd put it on top even disregarding cost But I'm biased of course

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