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sfwg · 04-04-2012, 09:30 PM

For those of you that have driven the s2000/ Miata and sat in/ driven the frs/brz how does it compare? Just trying to get an idea cause the nicest one I've driven is a 5th generation mustang, 4th generation GLI, and a 2nd generation RSX.

Zaku · 04-04-2012, 09:38 PM

S2k was the best one, the worst one for me was the old GC coupe. And to the question above technically they are the same transmission with minor changes so it might be hard to tell. At least for me it wasn't that different. Can't tell you for sure I've only been in automatic BRZ.

OrbitalEllipses · 04-04-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sfwg

5th generation mustang,

Short throws, but goddamn is that transmission NOTCHY. Miata is like shifting through butter or honey compared to that.

Pakjk89 · 04-04-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Short throws, but goddamn is that transmission NOTCHY. Miata is like shifting through butter or honey compared to that.

Reviews have called the brz's tranny notchy. I'm sorta noob when it comes to manuals so how is that bad?

OrbitalEllipses · 04-04-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pakjk89

Reviews have called the brz's tranny notchy. I'm sorta noob when it comes to manuals so how is that bad?

To be clear, I was talking about the Mustang transmission. My opinion was that it took a lot of effort to shove the gear change into gear, whereas the NA Miata didn't really require effort, it just slid into gear very smoothly.

dori. · 04-05-2012, 11:54 AM

cars in manual I've driven (cars with asterisk I own or have owned):
FC*, FD, RX-8, S13*, S2K AP1, NC miata, DC integra, DA integra, 02 WRX, Mazdaspeed 6, EK civic*, chevy cobalt ss, 08 bmw 328i (and 328xi), 4th gen prelude, CR-Z*

out of those, the best probably were the RX-8, the Miata, and the AP1s. Real direct and crisp feel.

Hated the MS6 though. Clutch felt like I was stepping in jelly and the shifter throw was like an old Jeep.

geez · 04-05-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Best for me, MK1 MR2. You could almost shift gears in it with just your wrist.

Absolute worse car, Ferrari Daytona. The clutch was heavy, felt like it came out of an old 18 wheeler, and the throw was huge. Only drove one though, so I suppose it could have been a bad example.

Hey, Dadhawk, you think you're old? My first car back in highschool was a '31 Model A Ford roadster. Totally non-synchronized transmission. Double clutch going both up and down through the gears. The skill in matching engine speed came in handy a few years later in college when the clutch linkage on my 544 Volvo crapped out and I had to shift without the benefit of a clutch. Looking forward next year when I get back to the States in picking up a good ol' back-to-basics FR-S and enjoying driving as it was meant to be.

random · 04-06-2012, 12:41 AM

For me...

Best -- Honda S2000 (AP2), Acura NSX (MY 2000), Mazda Miata (NC, both 5-speed and 6-speed)
Really good -- Acura RSX, Honda Accord 6-speed, BMW 330i (E46), BMW M3 (E90), Audi R8 V8
Good -- Porsche 911 C4S (996), Porsche Cayman S, Audi A3
Meh -- Infiniti G37, Nissan 350z, Hyundai Genesis Coupe 6-speed, Scion tC (1st gen), Nissan NX2000, Subaru WRX (GD), VW Jetta (A4)
Ugh -- Audi A4 (B5), Audi S4 (B5), 1960s VW Beetle

yayforaddison · 04-06-2012, 01:05 AM

So far my favorite was between my moms MRS or my old 944 Turbo S.

The MRS gears are so close and I LOVE it. Its also very smooth.

The Turbo S I had, well with the OEM transmission cooler, LSD, tranny in the rear, and a top speed of 162, it could take, and was made for a nice beating!

Sport-Tech · 04-06-2012, 02:57 AM

Miata NC and father's 911 - latter was longer throw but amazing. Of course so was the whole expereince of driving it.

armythug · 04-06-2012, 09:40 AM

VW Golf was the best I have driven

Liftcontrol · 04-06-2012, 10:40 AM

1. Acura NSX
2. S2000

Sparkplug · 04-06-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LivingLegend

I got to drive my friend's RX-8. I thought it was a fun car but he got rid of it because the oil consumption and maintenance was burning a whole in his pocket. But the engine came along way for coming out 54 years ago or so...

I'd say the RX-8 is good... but it feels notchy compared to an S2000. I drove a 996 GT3 a few times too, and the shift action and clutch feel was just as good, maybe even slightly better than the S2000. Never drove them side by side for comparison though.

carbonBLUE · 04-06-2012, 01:57 PM

friends 400rwhp lotus

04-04-2012, 09:30 PM	#29
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04-06-2012, 12:41 AM	#36
random Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Multiple Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For me... Best -- Honda S2000 (AP2), Acura NSX (MY 2000), Mazda Miata (NC, both 5-speed and 6-speed) Really good -- Acura RSX, Honda Accord 6-speed, BMW 330i (E46), BMW M3 (E90), Audi R8 V8 Good -- Porsche 911 C4S (996), Porsche Cayman S, Audi A3 Meh -- Infiniti G37, Nissan 350z, Hyundai Genesis Coupe 6-speed, Scion tC (1st gen), Nissan NX2000, Subaru WRX (GD), VW Jetta (A4) Ugh -- Audi A4 (B5), Audi S4 (B5), 1960s VW Beetle

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04-05-2012, 11:54 AM	#34
dori. Señor Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: white BRZ 6MT Location: Rockland, NY Posts: 1,554 Thanks: 740 Thanked 374 Times in 248 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	cars in manual I've driven (cars with asterisk I own or have owned): FC, FD, RX-8, S13, S2K AP1, NC miata, DC integra, DA integra, 02 WRX, Mazdaspeed 6, EK civic, chevy cobalt ss, 08 bmw 328i (and 328xi), 4th gen prelude, CR-Z out of those, the best probably were the RX-8, the Miata, and the AP1s. Real direct and crisp feel. Hated the MS6 though. Clutch felt like I was stepping in jelly and the shifter throw was like an old Jeep.

04-06-2012, 01:05 AM	#37
yayforaddison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 344 Thanks: 95 Thanked 52 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So far my favorite was between my moms MRS or my old 944 Turbo S. The MRS gears are so close and I LOVE it. Its also very smooth. The Turbo S I had, well with the OEM transmission cooler, LSD, tranny in the rear, and a top speed of 162, it could take, and was made for a nice beating!

04-06-2012, 02:57 AM	#38
Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Miata NC and father's 911 - latter was longer throw but amazing. Of course so was the whole expereince of driving it.

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