BRZ DRIVEN FULL REVIEW (lowering springs pics too) - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bedabi · 03-29-2012, 02:31 PM

This is the review I've been waiting for. It just about answered every question I've had in mind. Thank you!

zoomzoomers · 03-29-2012, 02:38 PM

Awesome!

for the review. I just can't wait!

merlin2111 · 03-29-2012, 02:39 PM

Fry Meme: Take my damn money!

S2K -> BRZ · 03-29-2012, 02:41 PM

Nice review. Can't wait till this car comes out and start driving it!!!

MarkRacerX · 03-29-2012, 02:41 PM

Thanks for sharing!!!

Nice to hear from another Subie owner, I am only on 4th WRX/STi now though

Good stuff, Good stuff !!!!!!

Racecomp Engineering · 03-29-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by blu_

Very nice writeup. What are your thoughts on the concerns being voiced that ANY form of lowering on this car will be greatly detrimental to its handling?

Also, how much development did you do on your lowering springs so far? Or, did you throw them on as "teasers" for your final product...

Thanks

Well we have our lowering plates which lower 3/8inch and if you use the WL ball joints you will be fine. 20mm isnt much and unlike many companies who will SLAM this car AND not increase the rates enough...we made sure we increased the rates and stayed well within the shocks ability to control the springs. The development was our normal process for lowering springs, establish what the damping range is for the shocks, stay within that range, lower the car and retain as much bump travel as possible with the use of shorter/firmer bump stops. Having access to the oem shocks and springs a undisclosed amount of time ago was the biggest help.

Mw

Grimlock · 03-29-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Well we have our lowering plates which lower 3/8inch and if you use the WL ball joints you will be fine. 20mm isnt much and unlike many companies who will SLAM this car AND not increase the rates enough...we made sure we increased the rates and stayed well within the shocks ability to dampen. The development was our normal process for lowering springs, establish what the damping range is for the shocks, stay within that range, lower the car and retail as much bump travel as possible with the use of shorter/firmer bump stops. Having access to the oem shocks and springs a undisclosed amount of time ago was the biggest help.

Mw

If you have a sporting cup kit or a decent set of coilovers available ( a corner balance would be great), I'll be up to your place very shortly after I get my BRZ!

Stigmaru · 03-29-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

You feel like a kid who sees the BMX bike or a skateboard in the store and has already mastered it.

Loved this image

Turbowned · 03-29-2012, 03:15 PM

Another great read! Thank you for focusing on the true performance of this car. Now I just need to see a comparison between it and all the "old sports cars" that they're trying to get enthusiasts out of! I'd like to see it stack up against a Mazda RX-7 Turbo II, MX-5 Miata, Nissan 240SX, Datsun 240Z (hey, why not?) Toyota MR2 and MR2 Spyder, Celica GT-S, Honda S2000 and BMW 325iS. Oh, and of course, the original AE86 Corolla GT-S!

Snoopyalien24 · 03-29-2012, 03:27 PM

Quick Q:

Did you hear rocks and/or gravel in the wheel wells inside the cabin? I've been hearing them on some driving tests...

Awesome review btw

Grimlock · 03-29-2012, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

...2749 lbs with full tank, 2714 lbs with spare tire removed and 2650 lbs with 1/8 of a tank ...

What I liked about this is that the 2714 figure with the spare removed is for a Limited trim car. The Premium should come in about 16 pounds less, putting it at less than 2700 lbs. Add in a lighter exhaust, possibly a lighter battery, and you're not doing too badly with a full tank of gas.

I can see autocross cars (STX or STR, who knows) coming in very light, but I don't know how much the stock wheels weigh to make a guess as to how much weight 245mm wide tires and 9" wheels would add back to the car.

blu_ · 03-29-2012, 03:37 PM

You should be able to save 2-3lbs a corner with lighter forged 17x9's... So it would depend on the added tire weight..

Snoopyalien24 · 03-29-2012, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimlock

What I liked about this is that the 2714 figure with the spare removed is for a Limited trim car. The Premium should come in about 16 pounds less, putting it at less than 2700 lbs. Add in a lighter exhaust, possibly a lighter battery, and you're not doing too badly with a full tank of gas.

I can see autocross cars (STX or STR, who knows) coming in very light, but I don't know how much the stock wheels weigh to make a guess as to how much weight 245mm wide tires and 9" wheels would add back to the car.

Maybe removing audio/speakers, rear seats, manual booklet (1lb), and going to the gym might help too

OrbitalEllipses · 03-29-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Maybe removing audio/speakers, rear seats, manual booklet (1lb), and going to the gym might help too

Gotta take that poop right before your autocross run too, bro!

03-29-2012, 02:38 PM	#30
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03-29-2012, 02:41 PM	#33
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bedabi Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: '13 CBS BRZ Location: WNY Posts: 75 Thanks: 592 Thanked 39 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is the review I've been waiting for. It just about answered every question I've had in mind. Thank you!

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S2K -> BRZ Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Limited Location: New York Posts: 17 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice review. Can't wait till this car comes out and start driving it!!!

03-29-2012, 03:37 PM	#40
blu_ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: SWP BRZ LTD Location: Portland, OR Posts: 889 Thanks: 637 Thanked 170 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You should be able to save 2-3lbs a corner with lighter forged 17x9's... So it would depend on the added tire weight..

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