How much of our car is Subaru vs Toyota?

[Priapus]

Originally Posted by Patrix

So... Toyota is the father, Subaru is the mother who carry 86s and give birth.

Come to think of it, Toyota's spending of money into Fuji was not a waste, it got to impregnate Subaru

[forzajuve]

I understand that Subaru needed to reach out to their market and expand by adding a new platform to their line up. That makes perfect sense and I am happy they chose to do so. I just loath the rift that people create between the two cars because most of their reasoning is petty and trivial. Not that people's personal preferences are petty/trivial, but the conclusion that "the FRS is better than the BRZ because of what I want on my car" and vice versa. Hope that makes sense.

[OICU812]

EXACTLY IMO it is about the options you want and the small cosmetic differences but for many it is about BRAND and that only nothing more at all. If it had been released worldwide under Toyotas name only how many hardcore Subaru fans would have went and bought it? I would only guess of course alot less then the current running numbers, but hey maybe my opinion is fucked up? . Hard to say I suppose but just judging by brand loyalty comments and so on,,,,

[ft_sjo]

All that matters is the important bits are Subaru.

[jkonquer]

Built by Subaru, designed by Toyota.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

Built by Subaru, designed by Toyota.

Lol HUGE face palm!!!

[forzajuve]

LOL

[5th 86]

Originally Posted by OICU812

I agree with the last part however, other then us bickeringon the net.... by having a Subaru version it reaches out to another group of loyal people who are Subaru brand loyal and that means sales and money overall. Regardless of the sales numbers, it is obvious that the BRZ is doing well on Subarus side of the spektrum and helping them out as well. Not everyone wants a 4 door STI/WRX? I was always honestly hoping that Subaru themselves would make a STI in a 2 door version, never happened and maybe never will I personally only would want a 4 door car if I had a family otherwise no need or want there....

They did in the 90's pretty much everywhere except NA

[Gary in NJ]

The cruise control stalk/switch is the same in my BRZ as it is in my wife's '13 Sienna.

Mystery solved, debate settled.

[zaptorque]

Originally Posted by jacobzking

there are LOTS of reasons for being curious. for one... $27,000. i spent the money, I have the right to know who built what. second, there are companies that do some things better than others. toyota has GREAT paint, Subaru notably not just as an example. some companies use better (insert your choice of car part here), some companies don't.


i've owned a lot of nice cars over the years (the NSX with its 26 layer paint job), infiniti fx45 (its infamous oil drinking rings and wobbly rotors), acura RLs that go 160k on a single timing belt, LS430 UltraLux with bad air shocks... there are just some things that other car makers do better than others.

as far as your whole construction worker vs architect question... i dont think many people would hire a world renowned architect, and then hire day laborers to do the job. you have to look at the whole package. if you hire a great architect, then shit for labor, the architect doesn't matter. you have to look at the whole scope of the build.

for what its worth, all FR-S colors except hot lava are subie paint codes

[radroach]

Every 86 / BRZ / FR-S is made by the seven samurai robots at the Subaru Fuji plant in Gunma Japan.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by jacobzking

there are LOTS of reasons for being curious. for one... $27,000. i spent the money, I have the right to know who built what. second, there are companies that do some things better than others. toyota has GREAT paint, Subaru notably not just as an example. some companies use better (insert your choice of car part here), some companies don't.


i've owned a lot of nice cars over the years (the NSX with its 26 layer paint job), infiniti fx45 (its infamous oil drinking rings and wobbly rotors), acura RLs that go 160k on a single timing belt, LS430 UltraLux with bad air shocks... there are just some things that other car makers do better than others.

as far as your whole construction worker vs architect question... i dont think many people would hire a world renowned architect, and then hire day laborers to do the job. you have to look at the whole package. if you hire a great architect, then shit for labor, the architect doesn't matter. you have to look at the whole scope of the build.

spending all that money doesnt give you any rights to know anything about the car. if we had those rights, this wouldnt be a thread. you make a valid point however for wanting to know prior to the purchase but i was thinking about it in the typicl scion vs subaru terms this forum usually takes so thanks for broadening my perspective. i hadnt even thought about it that way.

if people hired shitty labor or not, it doesnt change the fact that its not the construction workers who get the credit. im not saying its irrelevant, im just saying that having subaru stamped on a body part doesnt mean they should get any more credit.

my bottom line is trying to divide the work up is retarded because thats not how a creative process works.

[Noob4Life]

Subaru built the passengers side. Toyota built the drivers side.

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[phenoyz]

off topic but why? 268HP? http://www.toyota.com/camry/?siteid=...hpbuildwelcome

frs/brz supposed to be sports car only 198HP?

THANK YOU TOYOTA /SUBARU !!!!!!