Should i take this car?

[jmaryt]

as a sales consultant,what you state is ,perhaps, true,however realistically, one just does
NOT know how those miles were driven,and if a person is concerned about any superfluous miles on the car,you should,as a dealer representative, respect his feelings on the matter,regardless of your opinion.i can understand your viewpoint,however you fail to take into consideration the fact that it is HIS money that is being spent (over $25,000.00) irrespective of HOW he is going to make this purchase,ie: bank loan,cash
or "s&h" "green stamps",i am positive this is a considerable sum of money,and as such,
if he desires to wait for a close to "virgin" car,then i say good for him!,because i know it is exactly what i would do for all the right reasons! also,i would like to know if (s.o.a.)
told you personally that they "redline" every car at the factory? just curious,where did you get that information?..at $25,000 dollars a copy,you can bet your ass,i am going to be concerned,
regardless of warranty,or not,especially in light of the fact,it may be the last new car i ever buy!..just sayin'

[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by wbradley

OP- wow you must not be too sold on the car or just lack the excitement or drive if that's all it takes to make you consider not taking the car.

I was excited like crazy when I got mine and 70 miles wouldn't even make me think twice. But that's me, I'm in love with the car and was so excited to get it.
A car that is ruined in 70 normally driven miles...hmmmm.

If everyone reacted with "NO" every time with 70 miles there would be a whole bunch of worthless unsellable product. Some people are so extreme with their idea of perfection I wonder if reality ever gets thru. That is why I feel you should pass and let someone who is foolish and naive fall for that 70 mile beater.

I've been waiting for this car for long time. I just dont want to take any type of risk. that is why i needed to have some opinion from you guys.

Originally Posted by jmaryt

as a sales consultant,what you state is ,perhaps, true,however realistically, one just does
NOT know how those miles were driven,and if a person is concerned about any superfluous miles on the car,you should,as a dealer representative, respect his feelings on the matter,regardless of your opinion.i can understand your viewpoint,however you fail to take into consideration the fact that it is HIS money that is being spent (over $25,000.00) irrespective of HOW he is going to make this purchase,ie: bank loan,cash
or "s&h" "green stamps",i am positive this is a considerable sum of money,and as such,
if he desires to wait for a close to "virgin" car,then i say good for him!,because i know it is exactly what i would do for all the right reasons! also,i would like to know if (s.o.a.)
told you personally that they "redline" every car at the factory? just curious,where did you get that information?..at $25,000 dollars a copy,you can bet your ass,i am going to be concerned,
regardless of warranty,or not,especially in light of the fact,it may be the last new car i ever buy!..just sayin'

well described. thanks

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

as a sales consultant,what you state is ,perhaps, true,however realistically, one just does
NOT know how those miles were driven,and if a person is concerned about any superfluous miles on the car,you should,as a dealer representative, respect his feelings on the matter,regardless of your opinion.i can understand your viewpoint,however you fail to take into consideration the fact that it is HIS money that is being spent (over $25,000.00) irrespective of HOW he is going to make this purchase,ie: bank loan,cash
or "s&h" "green stamps",i am positive this is a considerable sum of money,and as such,
if he desires to wait for a close to "virgin" car,then i say good for him!,because i know it is exactly what i would do for all the right reasons! also,i would like to know if (s.o.a.)
told you personally that they "redline" every car at the factory? just curious,where did you get that information?..at $25,000 dollars a copy,you can bet your ass,i am going to be concerned,
regardless of warranty,or not,especially in light of the fact,it may be the last new car i ever buy!..just sayin'

Am I his salesperson? No. Do I have anything personally at stake if he buys that car? No. I am giving my opinion as a car enthusiast, not a salesperson. But from my experience selling cars that cost as much as 4 times what the BRZ costs, no one who bought those cars ever batted an eye if the car had 100, 200, 500 miles on them.

Do a search. Watch the video of the BRZ's rolling off the assembly line, and watch the engines go up to redline on the dyno as a final test before they get shipped off. Do you honestly think I make this up?? I've got better things to do than spread rumors and false information.

Again, to the OP, the clock is ticking. If it's worth the few hundred extra to get the car early, than by all means do it! If you want to wait to spend less and get a car that only 50 human hands have touched (instead of 52), that's fine too. Whatever your decision, I'm sure you'll be satisfied!

[jduffy]

Originally Posted by ottopilot

This is a question you should answer. If you like the car and price by all mean take it. It's a brand new car, even if the engine was beaten on you have 5 years to get a new one for FREE. I bought mine with 600 miles, don't overthink

Agreed, the amount of thought / mental torture people put themselves through with this is crazy!

You like it, get it. You don't like it, don't get it. Don't let someone else make the decision for you.

[zc06_kisstherain]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Am I his salesperson? No. Do I have anything personally at stake if he buys that car? No. I am giving my opinion as a car enthusiast, not a salesperson. But from my experience selling cars that cost as much as 4 times what the BRZ costs, no one who bought those cars ever batted an eye if the car had 100, 200, 500 miles on them.

Do a search. Watch the video of the BRZ's rolling off the assembly line, and watch the engines go up to redline on the dyno as a final test before they get shipped off. Do you honestly think I make this up?? I've got better things to do than spread rumors and false information.

Again, to the OP, the clock is ticking. If it's worth the few hundred extra to get the car early, than by all means do it! If you want to wait to spend less and get a car that only 50 human hands have touched (instead of 52), that's fine too. Whatever your decision, I'm sure you'll be satisfied!

I dont think he's criticizing anyone here just giving his opinion as sales consultant. i am willing to wait and that's what i want. those options are unnecessary for me. that's why i didnt include any options when i ordered mine. thanks for input~

Originally Posted by jduffy

Agreed, the amount of thought / mental torture people put themselves through with this is crazy!

You like it, get it. You don't like it, don't get it. Don't let someone else make the decision for you.

of course. i just wanted to know what everyont thinks to on this one as i did. i kind over-reacted to my family but i wanted to have it as 0 mileage.

thanks

[dori.]

the mileage will never actually be 0 unless you drive the car as soon as it leaves the factory in japan

however, I think you should wait. why pay extra for miles you don't know about and accessories you don't want.

this car's going to be around for a while, don't kill yourself over this

[Metabrz]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

@Metabrz, about $100USD

That is FUBAR.

[jimmillion]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19067

there's the redline from factory proof you asked for. it's in the video near the end of the video.

cheers.

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Am I his salesperson? No. Do I have anything personally at stake if he buys that car? No. I am giving my opinion as a car enthusiast, not a salesperson. But from my experience selling cars that cost as much as 4 times what the BRZ costs, no one who bought those cars ever batted an eye if the car had 100, 200, 500 miles on them.

Do a search. Watch the video of the BRZ's rolling off the assembly line, and watch the engines go up to redline on the dyno as a final test before they get shipped off. Do you honestly think I make this up?? I've got better things to do than spread rumors and false information.

Again, to the OP, the clock is ticking. If it's worth the few hundred extra to get the car early, than by all means do it! If you want to wait to spend less and get a car that only 50 human hands have touched (instead of 52), that's fine too. Whatever your decision, I'm sure you'll be satisfied!

your opinion is like mine irrelevant it's HIS money,and he's concerned about mileage HE has NOT put on! he has a right to be concerned,and i don't give a f*ck about what others do,if it's MY money in play,the car gets sold to someone else,and i will wait for one with next to no miles on it! i want one right off the truck with 0 hands on it! tough guy! ! whatta think about that! again it's MY my dough,asshat,NOT yours! you think everybody feels that way smart ass? you are "dead nuts" wrong! tell ya what! YOU can buy mine with 72 miles on it! spend YOUR money! ehe! he! he! i see you work at that "rat hole" in braintree!..figures! all you give a f**k about is a sale anyway! screw what's right!

op: take care of your money wait for one with just a few miles on it! you are entitled!
best of luck with that! just sayin' remember! they are NOT gonna stop makin' 'em!
it's like any color ya want as long as it's black! ehe! he! he!

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Am I his salesperson? No. Do I have anything personally at stake if he buys that car? No. I am giving my opinion as a car enthusiast, not a salesperson. But from my experience selling cars that cost as much as 4 times what the BRZ costs, no one who bought those cars ever batted an eye if the car had 100, 200, 500 miles on them.

Do a search. Watch the video of the BRZ's rolling off the assembly line, and watch the engines go up to redline on the dyno as a final test before they get shipped off. Do you honestly think I make this up?? I've got better things to do than spread rumors and false information.

Again, to the OP, the clock is ticking. If it's worth the few hundred extra to get the car early, than by all means do it! If you want to wait to spend less and get a car that only 50 human hands have touched (instead of 52), that's fine too. Whatever your decision, I'm sure you'll be satisfied!

Originally Posted by jimmillion

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19067

there's the redline from factory proof you asked for. it's in the video near the end of the video.

cheers.

it think somebody "cooked' the video! won't play!
doesn't matter anyway! ok, even if they run it to redline,it returns almost immediately ,but in 72 miles a engine can be destroyed! it CAN happen if the engine is run hard and constantly over 4000 r.p.m's and this is what we DON'T know!..just sayin'

[wbradley]

Jmaryt- What's the point of these comments? It's like saying, "I am an asshole but I got the money and you don't, so you should bend over backwards for me if I feel like making you do that. Oh, and go fuck yourself, BTW. You'd have to pay me an awful lot (up front) to force myself to deal with that attitude and I've been in sales for about 25 years.
Everything in the previous statement might be correct, but who wants people to think, " What an asshole/irritant that guy is..."

We are all different and have different wants and needs regardless whether others find them rational. Personally I think the OP is a bit extreme, but the only one really affected by it will be him as he will have to go that much longer before he gets the car he wants even though there is one right there that 99% of buyers would probably take. Obviously cars aren't like food or drugs where they are worthless once the seal is opened. A vehicle can run for hundreds of thousands of miles. Thinking the car is "ruined" in 70 miles is a bit detached.
Now, if you would pay me enough extra I would gladly acommodate your neurosis. Also, you would be a major source of stress/frustration for many salespeople. I suppose the guy who "understands" will make the sale. And, get paid months later when the vehicle delivers (hopefully he still works there).

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by jmaryt

your opinion is like mine irrelevant it's HIS money,and he's concerned about mileage HE has NOT put on! he has a right to be concerned,and i don't give a f*ck about what others do,if it's MY money in play,the car gets sold to someone else,and i will wait for one with next to no miles on it! i want one right off the truck with 0 hands on it! tough guy! ! whatta think about that! again it's MY my dough,asshat,NOT yours! you think everybody feels that way smart ass? you are "dead nuts" wrong! tell ya what! YOU can buy mine with 72 miles on it! spend YOUR money! ehe! he! he! i see you work at that "rat hole" in braintree!..figures! all you give a f**k about is a sale anyway! screw what's right!

op: take care of your money wait for one with just a few miles on it! you are entitled!
best of luck with that! just sayin' remember! they are NOT gonna stop makin' 'em!
it's like any color ya want as long as it's black! ehe! he! he!

Seriously? Count to 10 and relax or I'll report you.

[GNS]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

I thought about it overnight and I decided to wait. I would like yo have it fresh. Thanks everyone for comments

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Good decision. 79 miles may be a drop in the bucket, but you can put a lot of abuse on the car within those 79 miles. Any abuse that you heap on your own car, after you get it brand new, is something that you can measure and keep track of...but 70+ miles of test driving is unquantifiable in terms of potential abuse to the car.

As for redline testing from the factory, they do that to a lot of other cars... if not ALL cars, don't they? Even expensive cars like the R8 have their engines tested until the exhaust glows red hot, running at redline for a good amount of time. That's okay, factory testing to redline is fine with me. It's the clutch dumping, gear grinding, drift-wannabe test drivers that would concern me.

[jmaryt]

Originally Posted by GNS

Good decision. 79 miles may be a drop in the bucket, but you can put a lot of abuse on the car within those 79 miles. Any abuse that you heap on your own car, after you get it brand new, is something that you can measure and keep track of...but 70+ miles of test driving is unquantifiable in terms of potential abuse to the car.

As for redline testing from the factory, they do that to a lot of other cars... if not ALL cars, don't they? Even expensive cars like the R8 have their engines tested until the exhaust glows red hot, running at redline for a good amount of time. That's okay, factory testing to redline is fine with me. It's the clutch dumping, gear grinding, drift-wannabe test drivers that would concern me.

yes! i am concerned about this as well! unfortunately, a LOT of people do not
care,and this raises viable concerns to a potential buyer,as to how the car was driven.

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Seriously? Count to 10 and relax or I'll report you.

go ahead! i'll get you "banned" too,and i don't require you telling me what, or not to do!

Originally Posted by wbradley

Jmaryt- What's the point of these comments? It's like saying, "I am an asshole but I got the money and you don't, so you should bend over backwards for me if I feel like making you do that. Oh, and go fuck yourself, BTW. You'd have to pay me an awful lot (up front) to force myself to deal with that attitude and I've been in sales for about 25 years.
Everything in the previous statement might be correct, but who wants people to think, " What an asshole/irritant that guy is..."

We are all different and have different wants and needs regardless whether others find them rational. Personally I think the OP is a bit extreme, but the only one really affected by it will be him as he will have to go that much longer before he gets the car he wants even though there is one right there that 99% of buyers would probably take. Obviously cars aren't like food or drugs where they are worthless once the seal is opened. A vehicle can run for hundreds of thousands of miles. Thinking the car is "ruined" in 70 miles is a bit detached.
Now, if you would pay me enough extra I would gladly acommodate your neurosis. Also, you would be a major source of stress/frustration for many salespeople. I suppose the guy who "understands" will make the sale. And, get paid months later when the vehicle delivers (hopefully he still works there).

like you say, we are all different with differing points of view! thank god for that! factually,this keeps life from being boring! i would request that you refrain from playing amateur physcologist,because,like me,your qualifications
are lacking.i stand by my comments, you read them,if you don't agree,so be it!