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09-01-2022, 01:57 AM | #29 | |
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I lean BRZ after that review. But still, I can currently buy a bad mamma jamma track FRS with over 10k in upgrades for 17.5k. I like the new car for performance, but not looks. Wife does not approve of the new looks, cast that bait already, no bites. I should go test drive them both though to be sure. And plan more upgrades. |
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09-01-2022, 01:35 PM | #30 | |
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09-01-2022, 04:20 PM | #31 |
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You don't value your significant other's opinions on major purchases?
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Throttle mapping is different, but as reported and evidenced by dyno's WOT is no different between the two cars.
We have seen from the throttle maps of the OG ones that it follows pretty typical throttle delivery, and perhaps the mapping on the GR86 requests a bit more torque generally at lower throttle pedal angles that before - certainly this would give that impression they are talking about, not unlike a throttle controller might. Again it just points to a little but of the daily drive differences, with the BRZ trying to be more liveable, and the GR86 wanting to make it feel a bit more aggressive. On the track I do think its a bit of a suprise that they are very similar, and while the slight changes to the front are interesting in themselves I have to admit I think the set-up of having that direct body rear suspension while doing the softer rear bar and how its allowed the BRZ to a bit better on the street but still keep that 'stiffness' as far as the dynamic effects at higher G cornering is something I do wish GR had just done. The BRZ is not hard to lose the rear with, so I find it hard to understand why they needed to emphasise it so much when clearly the throttle tuning is a really nice point of difference. Its like they specifically chose an inferior suspension just so that we could feel the bumps more, and as its been said elsewhere in the winter it then shows up some of the cheapness in the dampers. Just my uneducated opinion of course, I get to back to back them in a couple of weeks, so really looking forward to that as I plan to push them. I'm not sure about the steering, perhaps there is a difference in the pre-facelift to the post-facelift OG models, because my 2012 86 had lighter steering than my 2022 BRZ. When you are on a long sweeping turn going at pace there is certainly a great sense of feel and pressure on holding that line, so along with the improvements with the steering latency (so steering movement to car movement) its been a better experience for mine. I would like to go back and try my old car again, because so many people talking about it means I feel like a bit of an outlier in that opinion and perhaps I'm just getting so old my memory isn't what is used to be. |
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2. She won't be able to see the outside when you're driving her to brunch.
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Mine was actually disappointed when I passed on my 2022 that I had ordered even though she wouldn’t be driving it lol. I have a 2023 on order now haha.
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It's all good, wife doesn't control any of my decisions, just chimes in. We're married, we talk. I don't want a car payment or big 35k withdrawal of late, market has taken it already. I also do not like the gen 2 body versus the gen 1. Not a hater, just still prefer the original FRS/86 nose is all. The new one is starting to grow on me and I see enough fanfare I want to test drive one to see the differences. It does get plenty of 'they actually listened to customer input' type reviews.
I also appreciate there are significant differences between Toyota/Subaru model lines even though the only differences are minor, like the suspensions. |
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When it comes to cars I just get what I want. I asked the wife what she wanted and she said a Tacoma Pro so I got a BRZ and got her the truck she always wanted. Difference is she will keep her truck for many years, I will likely get something different in 12-18 months.
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"No, I just want to pay this one off and not have a payment." We both WFH so it's not like either car is going to see very many miles.
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Ah snap, is this therapy for car guys now? Actually it is a bit.
My sister and her first husband went through cars faster than I go through underwear. They caused themselves a lot of grief in their 30 somethings stacking debt with a new car every 6 months. Just talk to your spouse about your plans, it's okay not to be on the same page going forward. Even if they disagree, they know it's coming. If you are single, just do WTF you want. |
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"...but it has that character where once you hang onto your speed, you may never need to brake." *hits brakes*
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