Can't wait to experience the GR86 platform for the first time

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

"While GR Yaris isn't coming to the U.S., perhaps it's time the U.S. got a Toyota hot hatch to call its own. One that continues to push the boundaries of performance. And one that can only come from TOYOTA GAZOO Racing."

I completely skipped over that sentence on the website.

[Jeonsa]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

I completely skipped over that sentence on the website.

Yeah it’s pretty much confirmed we’re getting something. Will be the first official all Toyota offering since the MR2 (not counting Lexus products)

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Kona61

There is not a chance in the universe the GR Yaris will come to the US.

About 24 years later, we will be able import some.
Unless all of them roll over at Nordschleife by then.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by Jeonsa

Yeah it’s pretty much confirmed we’re getting something. Will be the first official all Toyota offering since the MR2 (not counting Lexus products)

You mean race-inspired/sporty cars, right? Because most of the lineup like Camrys, Prius, etc are all-Toyota lol.

BTW I would include the 2ZZ cars in that like the last Celica.

Originally Posted by timurrrr

About 24 years later, we will be able import some.
Unless all of them roll over at Nordschleife by then.

Yeah and by then they'll probably command big money since they're rare today, imagine in 24 yrs.

[Jeonsa]

Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

You mean race-inspired/sporty cars, right? Because most of the lineup like Camrys, Prius, etc are all-Toyota lol.

BTW I would include the 2ZZ cars in that like the last Celica.


Yeah and by then they'll probably command big money since they're rare today, imagine in 24 yrs.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I was saying. Biggest question will be where would the GR Corolla (if it is in fact the Corolla) fit in the Trueno/Levin heritage? The GR86 is a direct successor to the AE86 in its price and RWD architecture, but it’s still a Subaru based car. The GR Corolla will be the actual descendant of the Sprinter Trueno/Levin being a complete Toyota based car.

[NARFALICIOUS]

Originally Posted by Jeonsa

Yeah that’s pretty much what I was saying. Biggest question will be where would the GR Corolla (if it is in fact the Corolla) fit in the Trueno/Levin heritage? The GR86 is a direct successor to the AE86 in its price and RWD architecture, but it’s still a Subaru based car. The GR Corolla will be the actual descendant of the Sprinter Trueno/Levin being a complete Toyota based car.

I don't know, that's up to Toyota's marketing to decide and try to convince you where it fits lol

But realistically, I don't think it would fit anywhere. The Corolla Hatch is supposed to call back to the Matrix. I don't know if you remember, but the Matrix was pretty popular, I'm sure might still be that way with some enthusiasts. Both the Matrix XRS and Corolla XRS came with the Yamaha 2ZZ-GE engine.
But not turbo.
I believe the last turbo-FWD /AWD based Toyota was the Celica.

If they truly have any Hot Hatch here in the U.S., with the 260-something turbo 1.6L engine from the GR Yaris, that would be pretty unique I think.


Edit.

but it’s still a Subaru based car.

Ugh. I know being on this forum, you may learn a bit more than typical social media commenters... so my gripe is mainly with them and not you. But I don't see this as Just a "Subaru", or even "Subaru-based". And definitely not in the same vein as the BMW-made Supra.

FRS/86/BRZ = TRUE collab
- Design
- Quality
- RWD, not AWD
- N/A, not turbo
- It's not a car Subaru would ever build on their own.
- Subaru has never used this RWD transmission (AZ6 - previously used on Miata, Lexus IS, 240SX)
- Subaru has never used a Toyota rear diff like this (similar/same diff as Mk3 Supra/Lexus IS)
- Toyota D-4S.

so I see it as a Toyota the same way as the MR2, Celica, Supra, AE86 etc.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Zandermannnn

Probably a good time to do it honestly. Banking on it becoming a high value collector car is pretty risky when prices are already high now no matter what the internet says. Covid is making a lot a cars worth much than they are in reality.

I was Driving at Sonoma last weekend and they had an S2K parade run. There must have been a hundred there and that's just Nor Cal. They were all in great shape so doubtful any type of scarcity will be driving prices up anytime soon

[Jeonsa]

Originally Posted by NARFALICIOUS

I don't know, that's up to Toyota's marketing to decide and try to convince you where it fits lol

But realistically, I don't think it would fit anywhere. The Corolla Hatch is supposed to call back to the Matrix. I don't know if you remember, but the Matrix was pretty popular, I'm sure might still be that way with some enthusiasts. Both the Matrix XRS and Corolla XRS came with the Yamaha 2ZZ-GE engine.
But not turbo.
I believe the last turbo-FWD /AWD based Toyota was the Celica.

If they truly have any Hot Hatch here in the U.S., with the 260-something turbo 1.6L engine from the GR Yaris, that would be pretty unique I think.

Toyota was talking about the Corolla Cross being the successor to the Matrix from what Kirk Kriefels was saying. Technically the old Trueno came as a hatch and a notchback coupe. Today we have a regular sedan Corolla and a hatch too just 4 doors. It’ll be interesting but technically it’s the heir to that throne.

Still love the twins though. I know with the Subaru thing its annoying, I owned a FRS, technically it’s more Toyota then people give them credit (Toyota even owns a piece of Subaru) I’m just saying overall compared to the GR hot hatch.