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synchromesh · 06-04-2016, 03:01 AM

The new flagship Mercedes was named best "Driver's Car", perhaps in part due to the fact they won Formula 1 convincingly for a while.

In the mid-90's, and with all due respect and no disrespect; you could literally drive an S-Class into a concrete pillar at 100k/hr. and survive. RIP, PBUH.

When I was a young man, the average car thief could steal a car in less than a moments time. Mercedes was the most difficult to steal at the time as it was told.

Today, all it takes is a magnet or coat hanger to break into my FR-S and steal my sunglasses that even the poorest of pensioners couldn't afford in 2 weeks.

Tcoat · 06-04-2016, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by synchromesh

The new flagship Mercedes was named best "Driver's Car", perhaps in part due to the fact they won Formula 1 convincingly for a while.

In the mid-90's, and with all due respect and no disrespect; you could literally drive an S-Class into a concrete pillar at 100k/hr. and survive. RIP, PBUH.

When I was a young man, the average car thief could steal a car in less than a moments time. Mercedes was the most difficult to steal at the time as it was told.

Today, all it takes is a magnet or coat hanger to break into my FR-S and steal my sunglasses that even the poorest of pensioners couldn't afford in 2 weeks.

For every single lock or security device made there are 3 or 4 ways to defeat it. It has been that way since the beginning of locks and it will never go away. Besides if I want in your car a rock on the side of the road works just as well as a computerized code seeker.

synchromesh · 06-04-2016, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

For every single lock or security device made there are 3 or 4 ways to defeat it. It has been that way since the beginning of locks and it will never go away. Besides if I want in your car a rock on the side of the road works just as well as a computerized code seeker.

Although it may be the same result, I'd say you still have to be careful or at least take preventative action.

It is inevitable. Like some places on the strip; you need more security, more frisking, more body cavity searches probably maybe because of the music being played is my guess.

soulreapersteve · 06-04-2016, 03:30 AM

I'm not high enough for this shit.

(I dont smoke, I just wanted to join in on the fun)

cdrazic93 · 06-04-2016, 03:40 AM

lol this thread.

Speed2th · 06-04-2016, 03:42 AM

Japanese car has better design with caring in mind - they tried to find a way that is best performance and easy for user to repair or extend the reliability. German cars are opposite, they just cramp the part in there and end up with difficult in repair or replace. I had a c36 Amg for a while and my biodegradable harness degraded itself and cause shortage. Cost me $1800 to have it replace. The mechanic told me all of the Mercedes at that era (late 90s ) has same problem. Your friend is comparing a lexury car to a econo sports car, that is not a valid comparison. A current Hyundai ( which was joke in 90s) now could pack more "engineer" than your friends Mbz. A Prius also have more "engineering" than his Mbz. Anyway, my point is that our car is a simple fun sports car and that is the soul of AE86

86kahl · 06-04-2016, 03:48 AM

Benz > Brz

mav1178 · 06-04-2016, 03:58 AM

Seriously.

guybo · 06-04-2016, 05:10 AM

Over the lifetime of your 86 compare against your friend's Merc the number of repairs made, cost of repairs and number of days spent off the road. You'll see the difference in german engineering. They make great cars when they work, but the problem is, things always break in german cars and it costs a lot to fix. That's why IMHO german cars suck.

I won't own another german car- working on them sucks, it's a PITA when they always have something wrong with them, every nut bolt and doodad costs twice what it should- you basically become a guinnea pig to test the latest tech they want to shove in the car.

In the end, most people who buy german either get a Porsche that they know is going to be a PITA but nothing drives like a Porsche (which is true) or a similar high end sports car and reliability is not an issue- or they are buying a name brand and they are either clueless about what a POS they are getting into or don't care but now everyone will know they are a douchebag and that cache is important to them. People will pay a lot and put up with a lot to be seen in the "right" car.

themadscientist · 06-04-2016, 07:40 AM

Your move, Germany.

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SquadRon · 06-04-2016, 09:08 AM

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Well Squady started out as a rather naive and nervous sort of good natured mascot until he started down the whole Bob Marley road. Then he kind of changed and was a naive and nervous yet aggressive jerk and was sent away for a while. Now he is someplace in between but if he pushes things to far he could go away again.

It's just "German Engineering" sounded absurd and never heard of it before.

JD001 · 06-04-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cdrazic93

lol this thread.

It's in how you can Kaizen and Kanban to the world!

themadscientist · 06-04-2016, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Commander of fifth Sherman

Those Germans are great engineers!

Jnamrefiel · 06-04-2016, 09:42 AM

It's all about how much spent by the manufacturer and expected sale price. They(Merc) Spend more in r&d and materials compared to most non luxury brands. That's what their customers want and are willing to pay more for all the extra features and "higher end" equipment.

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06-04-2016, 03:40 AM	#33
cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	lol this thread. __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

06-04-2016, 03:01 AM	#29
synchromesh Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Ultramarine Blue Location: Canada Posts: 258 Thanks: 23 Thanked 58 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The new flagship Mercedes was named best "Driver's Car", perhaps in part due to the fact they won Formula 1 convincingly for a while. In the mid-90's, and with all due respect and no disrespect; you could literally drive an S-Class into a concrete pillar at 100k/hr. and survive. RIP, PBUH. When I was a young man, the average car thief could steal a car in less than a moments time. Mercedes was the most difficult to steal at the time as it was told. Today, all it takes is a magnet or coat hanger to break into my FR-S and steal my sunglasses that even the poorest of pensioners couldn't afford in 2 weeks.

06-04-2016, 03:48 AM	#35
86kahl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Drives: whiteout, dark tint Location: SOCAL Posts: 308 Thanks: 2,453 Thanked 335 Times in 133 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Benz > Brz

06-04-2016, 03:58 AM	#36
mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Seriously.

06-04-2016, 05:10 AM	#37
guybo Huge E85 fan! Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2016 Scion FRS Location: Tampa, FL, USA Posts: 1,850 Thanks: 539 Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Over the lifetime of your 86 compare against your friend's Merc the number of repairs made, cost of repairs and number of days spent off the road. You'll see the difference in german engineering. They make great cars when they work, but the problem is, things always break in german cars and it costs a lot to fix. That's why IMHO german cars suck. I won't own another german car- working on them sucks, it's a PITA when they always have something wrong with them, every nut bolt and doodad costs twice what it should- you basically become a guinnea pig to test the latest tech they want to shove in the car. In the end, most people who buy german either get a Porsche that they know is going to be a PITA but nothing drives like a Porsche (which is true) or a similar high end sports car and reliability is not an issue- or they are buying a name brand and they are either clueless about what a POS they are getting into or don't care but now everyone will know they are a douchebag and that cache is important to them. People will pay a lot and put up with a lot to be seen in the "right" car.

06-04-2016, 09:42 AM	#42
Jnamrefiel Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: 2015 Subaru BRZ LIMITED Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's all about how much spent by the manufacturer and expected sale price. They(Merc) Spend more in r&d and materials compared to most non luxury brands. That's what their customers want and are willing to pay more for all the extra features and "higher end" equipment. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk

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